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- From: im@cmr.no (Ingolf Magnus)
- Subject: MSMail <--> SMTP (Was: Re: TCP/IP, WFW, ethernet, and internet mail)
- Message-ID: <1992Dec22.140336.9232@alf.uib.no>
- Sender: usenet@alf.uib.no (Bergen University Newsaccount)
- Organization: Christian Michelsen Research a.s., Norway
- References: <BxxJ1G.4vv@law7.DaytonOH.NCR.COM> <1992Dec6.230456.24802@csc.canberra.edu.au> <1fvotcINNnq8@tamsun.tamu.edu> <8892@lee.SEAS.UC <rick.104.724358768@sjsumcs.sjsu.edu>
- Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 14:03:36 GMT
- Lines: 71
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- In article <rick.104.724358768@sjsumcs.sjsu.edu>, rick@sjsumcs.sjsu.edu (Richard M. Warner) says:
- >
- >In article <8892@lee.SEAS.UCLA.EDU> weiss@curtiss.seas.ucla.edu (Michael Weiss) writes:
-
- (stuff deleted)
-
- >>In article <1fvotcINNnq8@tamsun.tamu.edu> cmenzel@tamsun.tamu.edu (Chris Menzel) writes:
- >>>Will WFW allow one using a PC on a campus ethernet to use Microsoft
- >>>mail (which, I understand, is bundled with WFW) to send and receive
- >>>internet mail directly? Thanx.
- >>
- >>The answer is "yes," IF:
- >>1) a mail server is used on that LAN
- >> -AND-
- >>2) an Internet gateway is added to the mail server.
- >
- >I.e., the answer is NO. Note the original question included the word
- >'directly' - which implies no intermediate mailer and no gateway.
- >
- >>- Michael weiss@seas.ucla.edu | School of Engineering & Applied Science -
- >>- Weiss izzydp5@oac.ucla.edu | University of California, Los Angeles -
-
- A few facts:
- - MS Mail always uses a file server share name, like \\MAILHOST\MSMAIL for spooling local mail
- - An organization doing Internet mail needs a separate mail server for two purposes:
- (this is true for both UNIX-only and mixed UNIX/Windows networks)
- - Receiving SMTP mail on behalf of all users, no matter what machine they use
- - Queueing outbound mail that can't be delivered at once.
-
- ==> There is need for both a mail server and an Internet mail host. It could be the same machine,
- doing both file serving and TCP/IP comms.
-
- The routing of messages between MS Mail and SMTP can be done in at least two ways:
- 1. Installing a separete gateway PC, acting as a client to both the MSMail post office and the
- SMTP mail server. This would poll and move messages between the two worlds at frequent
- intervals, e.g. each 5 minutes.
- 2. If the PCs have TCP/IP stacks, install a Transport Service for MSMail, letting each MSMail
- instance poll for, and deliver, mail to/from the SMTP server.
-
- Alternative 1 is available (at least in Norway) as the Microsoft SMTP Gateway product. It costs
- around USD 7.000,- (Yep, seven-zero-zero-zero). Or, one can purchase the FFAPI (File Format
- API) from MS at around USD 300,-. it consist of a large set of DOS .EXE modules that one can
- combine in .BAT files to construct a gateway mechanism. It can read and write directly to the
- MS post office, but I guess one has to write the SMTP/POP socket code oneself, in DOS.
-
- Alternative 2 is the most elegant, and it is software-only. The Microsoft MAPI (Message API)
- describes how to write a Transport Service (TS), using the SPI (Service Provider Interface, part of
- MAPI). The TS is written as a .DLL, and a reference to this DLL is registered in MSMAIL.INI
- (or some other INI file). So, each time MSMail starts, it will ask this DLL what kind of mail it accepts,
- and then provide the user with a logon message for that transport (can be remembered for
- future logons). This would be the user's UNIX userid and password. The DLL can verify this with
- the SMTP server, using POP. When logged into the tranport, MSMail will call the TS's Poll routine
- regularly, and the TS will in turn poll to the POP service on the mail server.
- At an SMTP mail arrival, the poll will say 'Yes!' and MSMail will issue calls to get the message and
- its properties. The TS can retrieve the mail via POP.
- Sending mail to SMTP is just as smooth: Ther users define their SMTP friends
- in the address book, with address SMTP/user@org.xxx instead of MSMAIL/.... The TS registed
- itself as tranport for SMTP/... mails at startup, so MSMail will call it to deliver the message, with
- properties, body, and attachments. The TS converts useful things to ASCII, drops the rest, and
- delivers the mail to the SMTP server, using SMTP. The advanced version of this would uucode
- attachments, and uudecode blocks in incoming mail, converting them to attachments.
- Of course it would be nice to use the WinSock API for SMTP and POP communications.
-
- WELL, HAS ANYBODY DONE THIS ALREADY? I'm inspired to do it, but time doesn't allow me
- right now.
-
- Btw, is the MSMail bundled with WfWG in any way crippled (as to e.g. MAPI usage),
- or is it full 3.0 ?
-
-
- --Ingolf Magnus <im@cmr.no>
-