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- From: dswartz@sw.stratus.com (Dan Swartzendruber)
- Newsgroups: comp.os.mach
- Subject: Re: How to get Mach; Mach for Mac?
- Date: 24 Dec 1992 03:07:42 GMT
- Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.
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- In article <1992Dec24.005237.8069@netcom.com>, knee@netcom.com (Mark Lanett) writes:
- > dswartz@sw.stratus.com (Dan Swartzendruber) writes:
- >
- > [I wrote]
- >
-
- [deleted]
-
- I guess someone will have to bite the bullet (possibly me if I have time) and do a
- port of Mach 3.0 to the Mac and give the to the Linux people (or maybe start some
- equivalent group. Sigh... I still don't understand why CMU couldn't have written
- the drivers and such from scratch, then the 3.0 u-kernel would have been unencumbered.
- Oh well, easy for me to say...
-
- > If you want to do Mac and unix stuff at the same time on the same machine, look
- > into A/UX or MachTen. If you want unix source code to play with, look into
- > BSDI386 or 386BSD or Linux or the Hurd. If you want a free unix: 386BSD or
- > Linux or the Hurd again. If you want the source code to a unix on the *Mac*,
- > well, there is none, you'll need to port BSD 4.4 and the BSD or Mach kernals
- > (or Linux or the Hurd).
-
- Comments:
-
- 1. 386BSD - not useful, since I have a Mac.
-
- 2. BSDI386 - ditto.
-
- 3. Linux - ditto.
-
- 4. the Hurd - non-existent (and wouldn't work on the Mac anyway, at least not right away).
- I don't know what the status of this project is. I haven't heard anything in months.
-
- > Note that MacMach allowed you to run the MacOS under Mach but then you
- > were locked out of the unix side (which is why to work with BOTH you need A/UX
- > or MachTen).
-
- This I don't understand. I'm running A/UX now. It runs on the naked metal and emulates
- the Mac desktop via Unix magic. Why would you "be locked out of the Unix side"?
-
- > Glossary:
- > A/UX is Apple's commercial SysV unix.
- > MachTen is Tenon's commercial Mach+BSD unix.
- > BSDI386 is BSDI's 386 BSD unix.
- > 386BSD and Linux are free unixes-in-the-works.
- > Hurd is the GNU's semi-mythical Mach-based better-than-unix, also in the works.
- >
- > PS. I forgot MtXinu's BSD+Mach unix, commercial, 386, but source is included.
-
- Absolutely not! At least not without shelling out a lot more money than the
- binary license! I should know, I had mach386 on my PC (before I sold it). It
- was a great product, I could even build and run Mach 3.0 stuff on it. Unfortunately,
- it doesn't run on a Mac.
-
- > Mark L
-
- --
-
- #include <std_disclaimer.h>
-
- Dan S.
-