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- From: mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539)
- Subject: Re: Software as PE
- Message-ID: <1992Dec30.125324.27900@mksol.dseg.ti.com>
- Organization: Texas Instruments Inc
- References: <46.2b2f8ada@ivgate> <bhayden.724605662@teal> <889520164DN5.61R@tanda.isis.org>
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- Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 12:53:24 GMT
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- In <889520164DN5.61R@tanda.isis.org> marc@tanda.isis.org (Marc Thibault) writes:
-
- >In article <bhayden.724605662@teal>
- >(Bruce Hayden) writes:
-
- >> So - What can you test?? I don't know.
-
- > Bruce puts his finger on it. "Software Engineer" is a
- > meaningless and misleading term. Don't agree? Okay, design a
- > test that distinguishes between a software engineer and a
- > programmer. Before you do that, talk to a real engineer.
-
- Define 'real engineer' in a way that isn't recursive or
- self-referential.
-
- > The one good to come of this is now that Software Engineer is
- > the fashionable euphemism for Programmer, the real Systems
- > Analysts may be able to reclaim their title.
-
- Sorry, but the difference between a 'programmer' and a 'software
- engineer' is about the same as the difference between any other kind
- of engineer and a good technician in the same field. A lot of 'real
- engineers' who don't understand what software engineering is about
- produce execrable software.
-
- --
- "Insisting on perfect safety is for people who don't have the balls to live
- in the real world." -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden
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- Fred.McCall@dseg.ti.com - I don't speak for others and they don't speak for me.
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