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- From: zrepachol@cc.curtin.edu.au
- Subject: Re: Comparison of Alpha, MIPS and PA-RISC-II wanted
- Message-ID: <1992Dec29.044012.1@cc.curtin.edu.au>
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- References: <Bzo3tJ.KGo@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> <15609357@zl2tnm.gen.nz>
- Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 19:40:12 GMT
-
- In article <15609357@zl2tnm.gen.nz>, don@zl2tnm.gen.nz (Don Stokes) writes:
- > mdchaney@fractal.ucs.indiana.edu (M Darrin Chaney) writes:
- >> Actually, I've seen alot of people here call RMS "the file system." For those
- >> of you who still think that RMS is the file system, I'll clue you in: RMS
- >> is not the file system.
- >
- > Perhaps you'd like to explain why the back of the RMS manual looks like:
- >
- > V M S
- > _________________
- >
- > *Volume 6B*
- ^
- Perhaps you could tell the nice reader what else is in vol 6.
-
- >
- > *File System*
- >
- > Record Management
- > Services (RMS)
- >
- > Seriously, RMS is all-pervasive in VMS. Sure, you can do QIOs to the
- > XQP yourself, and RMS even provides an interface to make this a little
- > easier. But 99.999% of the time, there is no reason to do so. This is
- > what differentiates the VMS approach from the Unix universe. Files on
- > VMS can (almost) always be read and written using RMS, often this means
- > that you can use tools intended for sequential files on indexed or
- > relative files. Compare the Unix approach, where if you use anything
- > other than a sequential file, other utilities can't do anything useful
- > with it. It's a standardisation issue more than anything else -- provide
- > a standard, easy way to do something and it will be used. If you don't
- > you get a plethora of non-standard wheel re-inventions. Providing an
- > ISAM package with the *FORTRAN* compiler (of all things) as one poster
- > commented on, just doesn't cut it in this regard.
- >
-
- But U*** still loses because it has no way of telling the application what
- TYPE of file structure it is...
-
- > This is what VAX C does. It still succeeds in being dreadfully slow,
- > although it wouldn't take much effort by someone who knew something about
- > file handling to write a VAXCRTL that does block I/O and goes like a
- > scalded cat. VAXCRTL is completely braindamaged in nearly every respect,
- > and seriously needs to be thrown away and started again.
- >
-
- Never a truer word spoken... The intertwining of the C language and Unix IO
- is a *HUGE* mistake.
-
- ~Paul
-
-