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- From: peter@ferranti.com (peter da silva)
- Subject: Re: <None> (Should be Open Systems, bloody NEWS system...)
- Message-ID: <id.VF2W.FE9@ferranti.com>
- Organization: Xenix Support, FICC
- References: <BzIx0C.C6G@dscomsa.desy.de> <id.GL0W.ED9@ferranti.com> <JAN.92Dec22131534@pallas.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
- Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 15:53:23 GMT
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- In article <JAN.92Dec22131534@pallas.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> jan@pallas.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Jan Vorbrueggen) writes:
- > In article <id.GL0W.ED9@ferranti.com> peter@ferranti.com (peter da silva)
- > writes:
- > In general, user friendliness requires detailed control over every aspect
- > of the user interface (as any Apple developer about that!).
-
- > Not quite. While being able to tailor your environment to your needs is
- > important, it's much more important that things are consistent across
- > applications, intuitive in the sense that you don't need more than two or
- > three tries to find out how to do what you intend to do, and easy to memorize
- > (which, of course, is much easier if things are consistent).
-
- I know you think you understand what you thought I said, but you must
- understand that what you read is not what I meant. And if you can understand
- THAT sentence...
-
- When I said "detailed control over every aspect of the user interface" I
- was talking about control by the vendor (for example, Apple), via developer
- guidelines and withholding releases and support from developers who do not
- toe the line, rather than by the user.
-
- User level customizability is a whole different issue. How customizable is
- your toaster? You can toast dark, or light, and you can use one slot. That's
- about all. But it's sure user-friendly.
-
- > Open systems require conformance to externally defined standards and
- > interoperability with software you've never had a chance to spec. It's VERY
- > hard to get the two together, which is why so many people are excited about
- > the NeXT.
-
- > I think people are excited about the NeXT because it fits the bill I gave
- > above...When first introduced, the machine was anything but inter operable
- > (optical disk, not all SCSI disks talk to it, nonstandard window system with
- > nonstandard monitors, no power switch :)).
-
- You could take a NeXT system, stick it on a network or a phone line, and
- run it as a peer with any other UNIX system. The application programmer
- interface is UNIX with Mach extensions, and both UNIX and Mach are open
- standards. The primary disk interface is SCSI (quality of that SCSI
- implementation aside, it *is* a standard). You could run X11 on it
- pretty easily if you wanted to. It's an awfully open system compared
- to Mac, or NT, or OS/2, or VMS... the only nonstandard stuff was the
- window system, and given the quality of X you really can't blame them.
- --
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