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- From: heitkoet@lusty.informatik.uni-dortmund.de (Joerg Heitkoetter)
- Newsgroups: comp.ai.philosophy
- Subject: Of idiots and fools and tools (was: Re: Searle's World and Computers)
- Date: 28 Dec 1992 11:16:14 GMT
- Organization: CS Department, Dortmund University, Germany
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- In article <Bznw6n.KJz@iat.holonet.net>, ken@iat.holonet.net (Ken Easlon)
- writes:
- |>
- |> Taking courses is OK, but not very cost effective. I would recommend
- |> reading a few highly technical articles in each field, and then spending
- |> a
- |> lot of time thinking about it and figuring out what it really means.
- Well, I think you're a bit to hard. If you want to know something about
- Physics, it's useless to get the lates Physica-D and start reading, I
- would recomment buying Feynman's lectures, as a good staring point.
-
- Just look at children, and how they learn...they don't have highly technical
- knowledge of anything, but a disperse knowledge of broad applicability.
-
- They build up "building blocks" (BBs), and later when growing older they
- learn how to optimize the recombination of theses building blocks when
- the abstract period begins (e.g. supervised learning in school).
-
- Unfortunately when we grow older, the aquisition of such BBs is getting
- harder and harder...I thus would recommend to read easy introductory
- texts and overview articles, to "grok" the BBs and leave the rest to
- the phase you mentioned above with "..lot of time thinking what it
- really means.." which I called the optimization period...
-
-
- I recently showed a video to some non-scientists, which contained
- (1) "The 8th day of creation" by Gero von Boehm, a German journalist
- who introduced the ideas and interviews with Danny Hillis, Marvin Minsky,
- Christof Koch and Jerome Lanier, in contrast to Joseph Weizenbaum.
- and
- (2) A part of a serial entitled "The machine that changed the world"
- a co-production by WBHC(Bosten), BBC(London) and NDR(Hamburg).
-
- The latter showed the complete history of AI, and somwehere compared
- expert systems to so called "idiot savants" ("knowing fools"),
- persons (like in the 'Rainman' motion picture) that have a very special
- knowledge/ability/skill but are completely dumb on any other field.
-
- Afterwards I asked some questions about the "idiot savant", and
- strikingly there seemed to be no difference to the casual watcher
- between the Profs working in the field of AI and the real (whatever
- real means) idiot...
-
- All I wanted to say is "DON'T GET AN IDIOT SAVANT" (there are
- too many already...)
-
- BTW: The term "idiot" stems from Greek "idios", which has absolutely
- no negative timbre. It just means "someone who is alone with himself".
- I see lots of idiots fooling around...(the author not necessarily
- excluded ;-)
-
- -joke
-
- --
- Joerg Heitkoetter |
- Systems Analysis Group | "...for I'm still a child,
- University of Dortmund, Germany | forever wild.. !"
- (joke@ls11.informatik.uni-dortmund.de). | -- Fish, contemporary Scottish poet
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