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- From: robinson@mdivax1.uucp (Jim Robinson)
- Subject: Re: reform party of canad
- Message-ID: <1992Dec29.015553.11786@mdivax1.uucp>
- Reply-To: robinson@mdd.comm.mot.com (Jim Robinson)
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- Date: 29 Dec 92 01:56:52 GMT
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- WARNING: if you followed the Reform Party free-for-all that went on a
- month or so back, you might want to hit the 'n' key now as this will
- probably just be a replay.
-
- alan pickersgill (alan.pickersgill@canrem.com) wrote:
- > -=> On 12-23-92 14:32, Jim Robinson wrote to All <=-
-
- > JR> Please elaborate on how the RP has made itself "deliberately"
- > JR> "attractive to bigots". That is a strong statement and one should
- > JR> really provide some evidence if one is going to make it.
-
- > I am thinking of policies on immigration, multi-culturalism, rcmp
- > uniforms, bilingualism. They are doing nothing to discourage bigotry.
-
- This is my understanding of RP policies on the above:
-
- immigration: the RP wants to de-emphasize the family class immigrant and
- emphasize the independent class immigrant; the idea being that immigrants
- with skills and education benefit Canada more than immigrants who happen
- to have the right relatives. I do not see anything bigoted about such a
- policy.
-
- MC: the RP would scrap government funded MC and leave it to the individual
- to maintain his or her culture as he or she sees fit. An argument can be
- made that to continue government funding of European based cultural
- activities (e.g., Xmas lights on Parliament Hill) would be ethnocentric.
- However, my understanding of the RP is that even this type of government
- funding would be, at minimum, severely reduced. Personally, I think the
- federal government is trying to be everything to everyone with little
- success and I would rather it just vacate a number of areas, such as
- culture, and concentrate on providing proper health and educations systems
- in order to empower (I actually don't like that word, but it does fit) the
- individual. Sorry, but I tend to view culture as an unaffordable frill -
- talk to me when the debt is zero.
-
- RCMP uniforms: I *disagree* with the RP position on this one. However, a
- non-racist argument in support of their position is this: Canada is an
- incredibly diverse country with few national icons. The Mountie uniform is
- one such symbol that in a small way does bind the country together. Thus,
- by altering the uniform one is also removing one of the strands of
- nationhood, and this is something that should be avoided, especially now
- given the tenuous state of the country. Like I said, I disagree with the
- RP on this one, and I will not attempt to defend/explain it further.
-
- Bilingualism: I believe that the RP thinks that language policy should be
- the domain of the provinces. Thus, Quebec should be uniligually French if
- that is what it wants; NB should be bilingual if that is what it wants, and
- BC should be uniligually English if that is what that province wants. As
- well, only a few federal institutions would be truly bilingual (e.g.,
- Parliament). This would probably mean that the *vast* majority of federal
- government positions in Quebec would only require a candidate to be an
- unilingual francohone; and the vast majority of federal government
- positions in CHQ (with the probable exception of NB) would only require a
- candidate to be an unilingual anglophone. As well, this would possibly mean
- that an anglophone in Quebec would not be able to interact with the federal
- government in English; and a francophone in CHQ would possibly not be able
- to obtain federal services in French. I have my own reservations about such
- a policy, but I do see it as a legitimate alternative, especially given the
- less than glowing results of the present language policy. BTW, as I
- understand it, this is quite similar to the Swiss' language policy, and
- that country seems to have a heck of a lot more language peace than does
- Canada.
-
- All in all, the only RP policy that I would consider possibly bigoted is
- the RCMP uniform policy. However, IMHO, this greatly pales in comparison to
- the establishment of gender and racial quotas as put forward by NDP
- governments in Ontario and possibly BC; these policies are by definition
- racist and sexist.
-
- > JR> The RP "Mulroney Deal" ad was offensive. However, most of the
- > JR> pro-accord ads were offensive as well - they either played to people's
- > JR> emotions and fears (e.g., the kettle ad), or assumed we were incredibly
- > JR> stupid. *Nobody* has anything to be proud about as far as campaigning
- > JR> in the referendum goes.
- >
- > It is important to note, though, that the RP had been promoting itself
- > as being different, and as the answer for Canadians who have become
- > cynical about politicians. In its first major campaign, it showed itself
- > to be the same as the rest.
-
- Agreed.
-
- > JR> My *current* prediction is that the Reform Party will take 20 to 30
- > JR> seats in the next election. How they do after that is up to how they
- > JR> perform in Parliament.
-
- > A prediction I have heard, and which has some currency, is that Reform
- > could take that many seats in Western Canada, the Bloc Quebecois could
- > run away with Quebec's seats, and the Conservatives come out a close third
- > in a three-way split of the other seats. The tories then make a deal with
- > the RP & BQ, form a government, and we are back with Mulroney for a
- > third term.
-
- I've seen this scenario tossed around as well. However, I have a difficult
- time believing that Canadians would accept a separatist party being a de
- facto junior member of the federal government.
- --
- Jim Robinson
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