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- Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 11:58:05 PST
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- From: Jonathan Fisher <jfisher@NETXWEST.COM>
- Subject: Re: well, pardon me!
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- > >rattling against Serbia, and, in a striking Iran-Contra development, pardoned
- > >six officials, including Caspar Weinberger, Alan Fiers, and Clair George.
- >
- > Weinberger's I agree with. THe major charge against him was thrown
- > out, and all the persecutor--err--prosecutor had left was vindictiveness
- > against Bush.
- > Walsh is a loon who has wasted $40 million. Yes there are people who
- > are guilty of breaking the law, but Walsh has managed to let each and everyone
- > get off on technicalities or overturned convictions. His desire to discredit
- > Bush is obvious, and reminds me of a certain Senator named McCarthy.
- This is incorrect. Walsh has 11 convictions (2 were overturned because of
- an overzealous congress). It is conceivable now that Walsh is being
- vindictive. But Bush has had these notes since '86, why hasn't he turned
- them over before now?
-
- >
- > >The pardons strike me as a very interesting move. Clearly, the intention was
- > >to lay the Iran-Contra scandal to rest, and Bush was willing to take some
- flak
- > >to do that, now that he doesn't have to worry about polls and elections. The
- > >revelation that Bush himself took careful notes on Iran Contra, dating from
- > >when it went public, combined with the pardons, has focused attention on
- > >Bush's role again. The late revealing of the notes will no doubt breathe new
- > >life into the investigation, and Bush's reluctance to hand over the notes
- > >gives a certain deja vu feeling (burn the tapes, george! burn the tapes!).
- >
- > Like Weinberger, Bush's notes have been available for some time. The
- > persecotor prefers not to acknowladge this and instead acts like there is a
- > "cover up".
- Why has Bush refused to acknowledge until recently that he had the notes?
-
- > Perhaps he could explain how something he has been investigating for N
- > years can be "covered up"?
- By classifying documents that don't need to be classified and therefore can't
- be used in a criminal trial.
-
- >
- > >Thoughts, comments, snide attacks on the special prosecutor?
- >
- > Pave it over and start over next time. The special prosecutor has
- > become an unworkable boondoggle. We have justice dept. and they are supposed
- > to be independent. Let's work on getting that bureaucracy back into some
- > semblence of a working institution.
- >
- > Brett'
- >
- The justice department is obviously not independent. The top people
- are appointed by the president and can investigate what they want.
- Let's use as an example Iraq-gate (can't someone come up with a better
- name?). A Federal judge has stated that he feels that this situation is
- ripe with cover-ups, including the justice department, but Barr
- appointed someone who was not independent and **surprise** he came back
- and said that there was no need for an independent prosecutor! As a
- side note, I would point to William Safire's (not one that one would
- call a 'liberal'!) articles on this, where he noted that the dependent
- prosecutor that Barr appointed was not his first choice. Barr's first
- choice felt pressured by Barr to return with the result that Barr
- wanted. He refused and Barr appointed someone more mallable.
-
- Jonathan
-