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- Subject: Re: On Bosnia, Serbia and a Potential "Third Balkan War," #800
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- Thomas,
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- you have to learn how to deal with diametrically opposite views without
- stooping to emotional outbursts ("puritan racist", "lousy student",etc.)
- Normally, people get expelled from discussion lists for such language.
- I am sorry that my views offended you. That wasn't my purpose. I forgive
- you for being so rude because I know how sensitive people can be about
- their ethnicity.
-
- >>How can a country of 2 mln. people, barely on its feet threaten
-
- >According to your number theory calculations Israel should have
- >ceased to exist a long time ago.
-
- A comparison or an example can not serve as a proof. Any "good student"
- of logics should knoe that. By the way, Israel have never threatened
- its neighbors, although it was accused of doing so by the Arabs (just
- like Greeks accuse Macedonia). To draw further parallels, Israel was
- attacked by its neighbors; Greece is now tempted to attack Macedonia.
- If the war in Bosnia spreads further south, Greece will have a good
- pretext to occupy Macedonia after accusing it of starting the hosti-
- lities.
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- >I think Greece if it wanted to could have just stepped over Skopje
- >any time it wanted to whenever it wanted to.
-
- Firstly, by saying so you inadvertantly prove how ridiculous Greece's
- claims are that Macedonia can become a threat in the future. If Greece
- is so powerful militarily, why is it concerned about Macedonia?
- Secondly, Greece can not attack Macedonia "any time it wants to do so".
- In this case by 'Greece' you probably mean 'Greek leadership'. Surely,
- if Greece is a real democracy, Mitsotakis can not do whatever he wants,
- because the popular support for such an action can not always be taken
- for granted. Although, from what I read in the press, it sounds like
- is now overwhelmed by nationalism and war psychosis. Macedonia has
- become a real obsession for many Greeks. The government is using it to
- deflect public attention from Greece's economic problems. But stocking
- the fire of nationalism can backfire. In the near future the government
- of Mitsotakis can find itself under a great pressure to solve the
- Macedonia problem by more radical means. Nowdays, if you are a politician
- in Greece and want to get (re-)elected, all you have to do is to be as
- belligerent towards Macedonia as possible.
-
- >I find your assertion here offending and absurd. Obviously a lousy
- >"student" of history (as well as Mathematics).
-
- Hmm...Very persuasive argument... You will always win discussions by
- resorting to personal attacks. I wish you many such victories in the
- future.
-
- >You really don't know how rich our culture is
-
- I never said Greeks are uncultured. All I said was that you don't have
- anything to do with Athenian philosophers;--not because you are not as
- good at thinking logically, but because modern Greeks can not be
- considered direct decendants of ancient Greeks. This is very normal:
- there are very few 'pure' nations in the world. Ethnically and anthropo-
- logically modern Greeks have nothing to do with ancient Greeks. You have
- more Slavic and Germanic blood in your veins. Be proud of what you are
- instead of taking credit for someone else's culture and history!
-
- >I personally believe that the level of the human intellect have not
- >risen a bit after ancient Greek history - which makes it even harder
- >for you to have any association with them.
-
- You probably learned from Aristotle how to conduct political discussions.
-
- Sam.
-