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- Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 09:51:22 EST
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- From: Thomas Varouhakis <varouhak@ICARUS.MONTCLAIR.EDU>
- Subject: On Bosnia, Serbia and a Potential "Third Balkan War," #800
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- In-Reply-To: BADERTINOVS%NEWS@ADMINB.RFERL.ORG's message of Fri,
- 25 Dec 1992 12:40:58 +0100
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- >
- >Please don't think that I'm anti-Greek. I am not. I am simply
- >trying to be fair.
- >
-
- how could I ever get such an idea... ohh please... Fairnes is in the
- eye of the beeholder, nevertheless...
-
- >Macedonia and annex it. How can a country of 2 mln. people, barely
-
- According to your number theory calculations Israel should have ceased
- to exist a long time ago...
-
- >I believe that Greece's assertions that if Macedonia doesn't change
- >its name it will start claiming a province of Greece bearing the same
- >name are totally groundless. It's the other way around. If Macedonia
- >retains its current name, Greece will have a good pretext to attack
- >Macedonia and annex it. How can a country of 2 mln. people, barely
-
- I think Greece if it wanted could have just stepped over Skopje any
- time it wanted to whenever it wanted to. The fact that it hasn't is
- the biggest proof that Greece does not care to annex that area. I
- think it's about time we took some lessons from the Israelis.
-
- >a comparatively big country, member of NATO with a population which
- >is several times bigger?!
- >
-
- Does Vietnam ring any bells to you?
-
- >In case of any hostility, Greece will have an automatic support of
- >the Western world, because it happens to be a Christian country.
-
- we will get as much support as we did in the case of Cyprus (just as
- an example to where negotiations can lead you too - nowhere). Or
- better of what we got as war reparations after WW-II. In per capita
- comparisons Greece was destroyed more than any other country. It took
- Germany a week to take over France, but a month to conquer Greece. (My
- island Crete fought the Germans even after the rest of the country had
- fallen).
-
- >(4O% of the population of Macedonia is Moslem). I think the best
- >solution of this problem would be if Greece changes the name of
- >its province called Macedonia.
-
- I find your assertion here offending and absurd. Obviously a lousy
- "student" of history (as well as Mathematics).
-
-
- >>Throughout history Macedonia has always been a part of Greek
- >>history and culture from the ancient times to now.
- >
- >I hate to disappoint you, but that is simply not true. There is
- >no continuity in Greek history or culture. Ancient Greece has
- >very few (if any) things in common with modern Greece. Ethnically,
- >modern Greeks are as different from ancient Greeks as American
- >Indians are different from the peoples of India. Any objective
-
- Besides anything else a puritan racist too. (what a surprise!). But
- why should I be surprised? Nazis in Germany RIGHT NOW dispute what
- happened in WW-II. The legal system in this country disputed what
- happened in the Rodney King episode that the whole world SAW with its
- own eyes. You see WHAT you want to see. But I don't know where your
- "historians" come from. For once I speak a language that comes from
- that of my ancestros. I studied their way of life and philosophy in
- that language. I live where they lived. I can easily trace my familly
- origins back to the 1600 to thr Byzantine Empire. I know how my
- familly came to Crete from Constantinoupoli. You really don't know how
- reach our culture is and how much people belive in it. Greeks fought
- against all odds the Persians in ancaint history, and they fought the
- same way the Germans and the Italians against all odds 50 years ago.
- They can be as united and divided now (civil war after ww-ii), as they
- were fighting each other thousands of years ago.
-
- Of course for a racist purist like you what counts is (skin colour -
- its gray level for more accuracy I guess). If there was a copyright
- fee for civilization mimicking Greece would be the richest country on
- earth.
-
- >Athenian philosophers, who you mention in your post, have as much
- >to do with you or with your ancestral country, as they have to do
- >with me. What I am saying is that modern Greeks can not claim the
-
- I personally believe that the level of human intellect has not risen a
- bit after ancaint Greek history - which makes it even harder for you
- to have any association with them. :)
-
-
- Thomas-
-