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- Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 17:01:00 PST
- Reply-To: Leonard D Woren <LDW@USCMVSA.BITNET>
- Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion list <IBM-MAIN@RICEVM1.BITNET>
- From: Leonard D Woren <LDW@USCMVSA.BITNET>
- Subject: HLASM survey (was Re: PL/S etc)
- Lines: 38
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- > > The difference is that Rexx was provided at no cost just when VM was
- > > really taking off, while the HLA is provided at extra cost when people
- > > are thinking about shutting down mainframes. How on earth is one supposed
- > > to make a business case for spending serious money on this product?
- > > I mean, at my last job (before I quit) I couldn't even convince them to
- > > get the (free) SLAC assembler mods, let alone CMS pipelines.
-
- This situation is probably growing at many mainframe shops.
-
- > > When will IBM learn the lesson from Unix that the more system programming
- > > tools you bundle in, the more useful bits of software get written for the
- > > system?
-
- Never.
-
- > I totally agree; requiring an extra fee for the HLA is going to be its
- > most serious drawback.
-
- Yes, but it's worse than that. For those of us who believe in writing
- transportable code, how can we use any HLASM features when so few
- sites have it? Unless it shows up on HESC, we won't get it. In fact,
- I don't know of any shops with plans to get it. Hence, the following
- survey. (Note that the reply-to is set to me. If you're not on Bitnet,
- you can email the survey to my Internet address LDW@MVSA.USC.EDU
- instead. If you reply to other parts of this message than the survey,
- please reply to the list.) I'll attempt to summarize the results of
- this in a couple of weeks.
-
- - Yes/No - HLASM is installed or on order.
- - MVS - VM - other?
- - Yes/No - HLASM is planned for the next budget year.
- - MVS - VM - other?
- - Yes/No - HLASM is not planned.
- - Why not?
- - Yes/No - If HLASM was only 10-20% higher cost than ASMH V2,
- would this alter your "no" decision?
-
- /Leonard
-