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- Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 08:25:47 EST
- From: Richard E. Lynch <RICH@wvnvm.wvnet.edu>
- Message-ID: <92359.082547RICH@wvnvm.wvnet.edu>
- Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
- Subject: Re: Logical Partitions/Physical Partitions
- References: <IBM-MAIN%92122314530248@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU>
- Lines: 68
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- In article <IBM-MAIN%92122314530248@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU>, Michael Stein
- <CSYSMAS@UCLAMVS.BITNET> says:
- >
- > - reliability
- > VM adds yet another point of failure to your MVS system. Also
- > in my experience VM isn't as good at recovering from errors as
- > MVS -- thus it's not just another point of failure, it's worse
- > than just twice as bad as MVS alone.
-
- The reliability of VM is much improved since VM/XA. We have been running
- VM/XA or VM/ESA for years and have had only a couple of failures. MVS
- has had a few failures too. There is also the guest recovery support
- where VM can fail with minimal impact on preferred guests. We go for
- months without a single VM IPL. For us, VM reliability has been about
- the same as MVS reliability. I feel that these days, the reliability of
- VM is not a big issue. I can not say the same for pre-XA releases of VM.
-
- >
- > - support of new hardware
- > VM tends to have later support for new hardware, thus
- > restricting you from installing new hardware (and selling the
- > old while it's still worth something).
-
- Agreed. Support for new devices in VM does tents to come after the
- support has already been added to MVS. However, this has never been
- a problem for us and I doubt it's much a problem for anyone else. The
- support for new devices comes soon enough. Also, dedicating these
- devices to the guest is a reasonable option when native support in
- VM is lacking. Once again, this has never been a issue for us.
-
- >
- > - complexity
- > VM is much more complex than LPAR. Besides taking system
- > programmer time to support/maintain it, there are more things
- > which can go wrong (I/O support, CMS which is at least needed
- > to maintain VM).
-
- Depending on what you intend to do with VM, systems support may not be
- all that significant. If you provide CMS access to your users then
- of course there is some significant systems support issues. However,
- that support would be required regardless of LPAR or NOLPAR. If you are
- simply using VM to run guest operating systems then the support requirements
- are minimal. Follow the "cook book" to install it and leave it alone.
-
- >
- > - performance (?)
- > It's easy to say that VM and LPAR should have the same
- > overhead, however it may not be. It's probably easy to start
- > using some VM services which have a large impact on the
- > performance. And if you can't use the VM services why pay for
- > VM? (reliability, $, maintenance, support etc).
-
- I don't buy this. A V=R guest under VM performs approx. the same
- as a LPAR guest. If you start using "some VM services" then it's
- because you need them and I don't see how that could significantly
- impact an isolated V=R guest.
-
- Running guests under VM has many advantages and is more flexible. The sharing
- and reconfiguration of devices; Reduced hardware requirements; Use of virtual
- CTCA's instead of real ones.
-
-
- Richard E. Lynch
- West Virginia Network for Educational Telecomputing (WVNET)
- Manager of IBM Systems Programming
- 837 Chestnut Ridge Road
- Morgantown, WV 26505 Bitnet: RICH@WVNVM.BITNET
- Tel: (304) 293-5192 Internet: rich@wvnvm.wvnet.edu
-