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- Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 08:21:39 EST
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- From: Ken Koester <MAINT2@ERS.BITNET>
- Subject: Re: Does knowing history make any difference in policy?
- In-Reply-To: Message of Mon, 21 Dec 1992 06:42:32 EDT from <DLALLY@STLAWU>
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- On Mon, 21 Dec 1992 06:42:32 EDT Dale Lally said:
- >Obviously, as a professor of History, Pres Wilson was, IMHO, woefully
- >aware of the disadvantages of US isolationism. However, I am not yet
- >willing to agree that his 14 points and the Versailles treaty were the
- >prime reasonsfor the rise of Hitler and WW II.
- >
- I don't think Walter was really saying that Wilson's ideas were the prime
- reasons, but only how they were alternately ignored, misunderstood, and
- abused (if he isn't, then I am. I see the 14 points as a direct answer to
- Lenin & credit Wilson for considerably more astuteness than any other western
- leader at the time.).
-
- >Had the Allies forced the military situation and inflicted a complete defeat
- >in the field on the German army, this important psychological weapon would
- >not have been available to Hitler or ANY OTHER similarly inclined future
- >German leader.
-
- The rancor of a complete defeat would have been nearly as bad, I think.
- The biggest problem was forcing a severe loss on Germany, failing to make the
- same good between the wars, and not making them an active partner in making
- a new order in Europe on the other hand. A policy that cannot do one thing
- or the other has little chance of success.
- >
- >IMHO, this is the reason why the WW II allies decided on a total defeat and
- >unconditional surrender of both Germany and Japan. They wanted to make it
- >perfectly clear to both nations, for all time (or 40 years, whichever comes
- >first) that the use of war and genocide to further national interests will
- >be met with a very very painful response.
- >
- No argument here.
-