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- From: elendil@seashell.mintir.new-orleans.la.us (Edward J. Branley)
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- Subject: Re: (no subject given)
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- Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 19:07:45 CST
- References: <9212212214.AA22036@cirrus.SEAS.UCLA.EDU>
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- John Weitzel <weitzel@CIRRUS.SEAS.UCLA.EDU> writes:
-
- > Hello,
- > My name is John L Weitzel and I am currently employed as a counselor
- > for the School of Engineering at UCLA. I was born, raised, and continue
- > to practice the Catholic faith. I attended high school and college
- > seminaries in Southern California for the Archdiocese of Los Angeles.
- >
- > My main concern, at this point, deals with the quality of Catholic
- > Secondary Education. There are many studies which show that academically
- > the Catholic Educational system is far superior to that of the American
- > Public Educational Systems. My question does not have to do with the quality
- > of the education of science, math, arts and humanities, and other such areas,
- > but with basic Catholic Doctrine. In local Catholic high schools, graduates
- > have virtually no idea what is meant by such concepts as trinity,
- > transubstantiation, salvation, or could not list 1/2 of the books of the
- > New Testament, let alone the Old Testament. These individuals are the ones
- > I see now attending Evangelical Churches. I have many close friends who are
- > Evangelical brethren, but they have a coherent understanding of the Bible,
- > salvation, and doctrine. My falling away Catholic friends, as well as
- > friends who are practicing, have little idea about the depth of history,
- > coherence, and basic doctrine of the Catholic Church. Individuals graduating
- > from Evangelical High Schools seem to know more about Catholic Theology than
- > most Catholics from so-called Catholic High Schools. I do not think that all
- > Catholics need to understand Aquinas, Augustine, and Borromeo in depth, but
- > do you not think that we should all know why we are Catholic, how we are save
- > and how to discuss such with our seperated brethren?
-
- John, as a former high school history teacher, I understand your concern.
- One fundamental problem with teaching some of the topics you mentioned is that
- we have so many students these days that are reading at levels far below their
- grade level. Teaching a concept such as transubstantiation isn't easy when
- you're dealing with eleventh graders who are reading at an eighth grade level.
-
- Another problem is that many of the religion teachers I've worked with in the
- past really weren't qualified to teach religion. There was no certification
- requirement for religion teachers here in New Orleans till 1984. These
- teachers were good role models, and did a good job of teaching morality
- subjects, but were lacking on the 'technical' aspects of our faith that you
- mention in your article. I'm probably one of the youngest (at 34) people I
- know who was taught some sort of formal catechism, and I didn't get much. I'd
- bet that anyone younger than me got caught in the post-Vatican II wave of
- de-emphasizing of 'technical' teachings. Even teachers who go to Loyola U.
- here don't get much formal religious training in school, much less those of us
- who went to state schools, so the first time they're exposed to many
- theological concepts is during their religion certification courses.
-
- Now that religion teachers have to complete some basic courses to become
- certified, the problem of lack of basic knowledge is starting to diminish.
- That still leaves the issue of dealing with putting more theology into the
- curriculum. That will probably take a few more years, as these more-qualified
- teachers get to the point where they're making contributions to curriculum and
- textbook design.
-
- >
- > Thanks for your response.
- >
- > Merry Christmas
-
- Merry Christmas to you, also!
-
- > and
- > May God Bless America
-
- If you don't mind, I'm going to ask for a blessing for a few other places on
- this good earth besides America.
-
-
-
- |Edward J. Branley elendil@mintir.new-orleans.la.us|
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