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- Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 12:14:00 N
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- Subject: Crimson's middle album (widened)
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- First of all, thanks to all those who explained the meaning of "Matte
- Kudasai" and "Thela Hin Ginjeet"!
- Then Mike (Masuda) asks:
-
- >btw, what is your opinion on the middle albums by Crimson?
-
- The answer is not easy, I think, since King Crimson hasn't been simply
- "a band"... it's been Robert Fripp + several other talented guys, which is
- quite different.
- If I had to choose one single album from their production, I'd still
- go for "In The Court Of The Crimson King". It's amazing for two reasons: first,
- when one compares it to "The Cheerful Insanity Of Giles, Giles and Fripp",
- which was the earlier attempt of the man; second, when one tries to remember
- that the record came out in *1969*, when most of the progressive bands were
- still asking themselves which way to go. In the next few years there were so
- many musicians who tried to get KC's sound that the album became a milestone
- in itself.
- Anyway, a second choice should really include "Lizards", though I think
- that the best incarnation of Crimson was that of 1973-74, with Wetton, Bruford
- and Cross. The live gigs contained in the box "The Great Deceiver" are outstan-
- ding to say the least (though I've already had the chance to say I consider
- the box in itself a little too selfish and exaggerated).
- The last version of KC, i.e. Fripp-Belew-Levin-Bruford, was an extre-
- mely and interesting powerful one. As always, the albums one loves more are
- exactly those which another hates guts -- and so my choice (had I to pick just
- one, again) would be [anti-Bloom suit on] "Beat" [anti-Bloom suit off, care-
- fully... :)]. In second position, "Discipline". This is because if on one side
- I've always disliked pure "pop" music, on the other side I like the delicate
- wedding between it and a more serious and complicated philosophy -- as that of
- Crimson. In this sense, "Neal And Jack And Me" is probably one of my most fa-
- vourite songs ever: it's "difficult" enough to satisfy my perverse ears,
- but "pop" enough to amuse me. Not easy to find it (and the same goes for other
- faves of mine, like "Once In A Lifetime" by Talking Heads, or "Patient" by Ham-
- mill, or... well, I guess the picture is clear).
-
- The final remark is that probably KC haven't been understood if not
- on the surface for years. Personally, I don't see any contradiction in the
- evolution of the band between 1974 and 1981. Seven years were many even for
- Fripp, but there is a logical thread between their latest works of the 70s
- and the 80s version.
- Neither, of course, I claim that *I* have understood much... :)
-
- Ciao, Marco
-