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- From: DeadHead@cup.portal.com (Bruce M Ong)
- Newsgroups: ba.singles
- Subject: Re: Needing help greeting 30!!
- Message-ID: <72639@cup.portal.com>
- Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 14:06:06 PST
- Organization: The Portal System (TM)
- Distribution: ba
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- >In article <72562@cup.portal.com> DeadHead@cup.portal.com (Bruce M Ong) writes
- :
- >
- >> Peer pressure, peer pressure, hypnotic TV commercials with these
- >>beautiful couples in them (would somebody please tell the ad agency that
- >>handles the <<Eden Roc Champagne>> account that the 70's are OVER?). ;-)
- >
- >I heard a commercial today from some hotel about a New Year's Eve "special".
- >The one thing that really pissed me off about it was "only $XXX per couple."
- >"You two will have a wonderful time, blah, blah, blah..." It's like one can't
- >exist by oneself - one *has* to have a partner to feel complete, or something.
-
- Of course we cant exist by ourselves! Remember the game of life?
- That's the first game you are supposed to program in your college computer
- science program -- most probably in Pascal. ;-)
-
- My gripe is mostly around the subliminal pressures that the Ad world
- sends out to the single individuals. I guess that is akin to my gripe about
- "why are there so few asians or african americans or other peoples of color
- in the ad world." It seems that madison ave. is pretty much set on celebrating
- ONE lifestyle, (married, 2.5 children, 1 dog, 2 cars (one of them stationwagon
- for the wife), a house in the suburbs, a career). And if people in the
- commercials are not exactly "there" yet, they are working towards that
- direction. I just dont understand "why the hell cant they celebrate the
- singles lifestyle?"
-
- I am not saying that's not a good lifestyle. But it's just one of them.
- The world hasnt gotten around to accept the others, yet. I guess it's
- especially tough in the bay area for people to accept the kind of demographics
- that madison ave is trying to push on us -- the demographics that probably
- are right for mid west, are quite often off base here. [That just makes me
- want to go back to school and get an MBA and get into the ad world and
- clean it up!]
-
- As for the philosophical point of "does one have to have a partner
- to feel complete" -- I would say you can feel "PRETTY" complete by yourself,
- and yet there is *still* that gnawing feeling that you are not yet complete.
- The best relationships that I have had are the ones in which I felt complete,
- and that's how I learned to tell in my gut if I am in a good relationship or
- not. However, I am not sure if the gnawing feeling is from the subliminal
- bullshit we get from our social environments and our conditioning from day
- one, or if it is *innate*. I dont want to bother thinking about it too much
- cuz you could really get loopy thinking up a storm like that ;-). But
- generally, i think it's both. One of the more interesting definitions of
- "Love" is in Plato's <<Symposium>> (or is that Aristotle? I am pretty sure
- it's plato) -- a book in which a bunch of dudes sat around drinking
- beer talking about love, marriage, purpose of life, etc. and pretty much just
- mentally masturbated and had brain sex with each other. Upon the topic of
- love, plato felt that each human has 'another half' walking around the earth
- somewhere after birth, and his/her purpose in life is to find the other half
- so that they can be "complete." Once the other is found, love will spring up.
- (pretty narcissistic if you ask me). That postulate tells me that such gnawing
- feeling of 'looking to become complete' must have existed in the Golden
- Ages. And yet I know the gnawing feeling can also be generated by the
- madison ave... I dont know. I guess we just have to make sure that our
- gnawing feeling is not based on the madison ave but rather it's innate...
-
- [I hate to get academic myself. But I cant help it. Shoot me. Wait.
- I am supposed to have been shot already for being a canonist] :-)
-
- >--
- >Ed Carp, N7EKG erc@apple.com 801/538-0177
- >"This is the final task I will ever give you, and it goes on forever. Act
- >happy, feel happy, be happy, without a reason in the world. Then you can love,
- >and do what you will." -- Dan Millman, "Way Of The Peaceful Warrior"
- ---
- /bruce "is it time to go home yet? Whose damn idea is it that people have
- to work the last few days of the year? Like they will get anything done."
-