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- Path: sparky!uunet!spool.mu.edu!wupost!csus.edu!netcom.com!madhaus
- From: madhaus@netcom.com (Maddi Hausmann)
- Subject: Re: Gays, the military and "privacy"
- Message-ID: <1992Dec29.023425.1502@netcom.com>
- Organization: Society for Putting Things on Top of Other Things
- References: <1992Dec23.113754.20358@netcom.com> <1992Dec23.210551.8674@netcom.com> <1992Dec28.110607.708@netcom.com>
- Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 02:34:25 GMT
- Lines: 96
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- phil@netcom.com (Phil Ronzone) writes: >
- madhaus@netcom.com (Maddi Hausmann) writes: > >
- phil: > >>
- maddi:> >>>
- phil: > >>>>
-
- > >>>>No charges have been filed, yet Michels has stepped down. As
- > >>>>SCO wishes to go public, it is not good for an IPO to have
- > >>>>such shit going on. He was most likely forced out.
- > >>>>
- > >>>Wrong again. Charges have been filed with the State EEO
- > >>>office by two of the five. Civil lawsuits have also been
- > >>>filed. So what are you talking about?
- > >>>
- > >>As I said, no charges have been filed. A complaint is not a
- > >>charge, nor is a lawsuit. When the District Attorney and a
- > >>Grand Jury indict Michels for rape, now THAT's a charge. As
- > >>in "an indictment charging ...".
- > >>
- > >>Now, care to publicly admit you're wrong?
- > >>
- > >Since such incidents are RARELY charged as criminal behavior,
- > >it is misleading of you to imply that since no CRIMINAL
- > >charges have been filed, that therefore nothing is going on.
- > >A CIVIL lawsuit is still damaging to the company, which is
- > >why Michels stepped down. Michels is not accused of rape, yet
- > >you imply a lack of a rape charge as proof that there is no
- > >proof of wrongdoing. Very misleading, Phil. The question you........
- >
- >Sigh - very very intellectually dishonest. Why don't you just admit that
- >you were wrong?
-
- Because I wasn't. You have a serious projection problem, Phil.
- You were wrong FOUR times, but you keep changing the subject.
- Where's the support for your assertion that r.h.f. became PC
- when I took over moderation? Seventh request, Phil.
-
- >Michels stepped down NOT because of lawsuits (any company that size has
- >lawsuits against it on an ongoing basis) nor because of EEO complaints
- >(again, any company that size will have continual EEO complaints), but
- >because of FOA.
-
- Assertion without proof. Elaborate. At no point do you show he
- stepped down due to FOA. Your later remark shows he stepped due
- because of money, so you destroy your own argument.
-
- >It has been undountedly pointed out that a LOT of people that are working
- >on taking SCO public stand to lose a good chunk of money if the IPO
- >is damaged -- and it will be damaged by any hint of unresolved scandal.
- >
- >Given that the two Michels have 35% of SCO, and assuming that an
- >unresolved scandal could lower the IPO price by say, 10%, that would
- >cost the Michels tens of millions of dollars.
- >
- >Tens of millions of dollars is enough to make ME step down.
-
- Fine. You have now advanced the hypothesis that the senior
- Michels stepped down due to money. Demonstrate what this has
- to do with FOA.
-
- >
- >Oh, and by the way -- I did not imply "a lack of a rape charge as proof that
- >there is no proof of wrongdoing."
-
- Then why did you remove your comments that I stated implied this
- very thing? Very deceitful.
-
- >Again, you were wrong and seem unable to admit it.
-
- Projection. Bad case. Get help.
-
- >Do you realize the WORLD of difference between charges and lawsuits and EEO
- >complaints?
-
- I've already addressed this issue, and it's even included in this
- article, but you choose to ignore it. Charges occur for rapes.
- Short of that, the way to go is a lawsuit or an EEO complaint.
- It's that simple.
-
- >How would YOU like someone to erroneously say that you were charged with
- >various felonies? I don't think you'd like it one bit. Get your act
- >together and get your facts straight.
-
- Well, given there are also no lawsuits or complaints filed against
- me, I'd just ignore it. Stop changing the subject. The issue is
- that Michels was forced to step down because of scandal and money.
- FOA and PC-ness have zero to do with this situation.
-
- Your problem is you think FOA and PC apply to every situation.
- Get help. You're seriously off the deep end.
-
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