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- From: briand@tekig5.pen.tek.com (Brian D Diehm)
- Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
- Subject: Re: Something NEW, ferGawdzake!
- Message-ID: <8042@tekig7.PEN.TEK.COM>
- Date: 21 Dec 92 18:48:37 GMT
- References: <1992Dec17.155731.12123@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> <724806662snx@sloth.equinox.gen.nz> <1992Dec20.061608.20205@sol.ctr.columbia.edu>
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- >>1) Typesetters probably want the double dash as opposed to the single
- >>so they can unambiguously differentiate em dashes from hyphens.
- >
- >I *know* that. My question was, why do *copy editors* routinely insist that a
- >double hyphen is not the correct symbol for an em dash when it's what the
- >typesetters prefer?
- >
- >>2) Em dashes may have no space on either side, as in your "--", or
- >>they may have narrow spaces, depending on house style. Lack of
- >>standards isn't confined to the field of computers...
- >
- >I thought that the typesetters added the narrow spaces, and the typescript
- >customarily contained no spaces on either side of the double hyphen. This is
- >the rule in every style book I've seen.
-
- In traditional usage, only the typesetters had access to machinery which could
- typeset em dashes and narrow spaces.
-
- The rest of us (tm) were restricted to monospaced typewriters. This limitation
- has been the origin of many execrable typographic aberrations, such as non-
- polarized quotes, double spaces between sentences, the use of underlining,
- and double dashes for an em dash surrounded by narrow spaces.
-
- Unfortunately, copy editors were limited to the same tools as "the rest of
- us," and so they enforced the standard of typewriter equivalents.
-
- Typesetters had an entire discipline of how to translate typewritten copy (in
- standard copy-edit form) into typeset copy.
-
- Nowadays, with everyone having access to typographic tools, people still apply
- the typewriter equivalents. In the process, they simply look ignorant. I hope
- that eventually word will even get back to the typing teachers. A pessimist
- would probably assume that the net result will be a permanent lowering of the
- standards of typographic excellence.
-
- Copy editors *should* be aware of the techonolgy, but often aren't. They
- *should* be ashamed of themselves, but they probably don't know.
-
- -Brian
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- Brian Diehm
- Tektronix, Inc. (503) 627-3437 briand@tekig5.PEN.TEK.COM
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