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- From: et@teal.csn.org (Eric H. Taylor)
- Subject: Re: Repost of Truzzi Lecture: How to Handle Scientific "Unorthodoxy"
- Message-ID: <C03Lyz.pF@csn.org>
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- Summary: "Read my posts: no new phenomenon!"
- Keywords: skeptics CSICOP debunkers orthodoxy anomalies
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- References: <1992Dec23.003135.20240@netcom.com> <1hk78vINN34t@gap.caltech.edu>
- Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 00:42:33 GMT
- Expires: Sat, 30 Jan 1993 07:00:00 GMT
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- In article <1hk78vINN34t@gap.caltech.edu>, carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU writes:
- >In article <1992Dec23.003135.20240@netcom.com>, noring@netcom.com (Jon Noring) writes:
- >[From a colloquium]
-
- >[...]
-
- >=The second common approach is what critics usually call the debunkers'
- >=approach. This is the main attitude of the orthodox scientific community
- >=towards anomaly claims. It is characterized by the Committee for the
- >=Scientific Investigation of Claims of the Paranormal (CSICOP). "Whatever is
- >=claimed is nothing but ... something else." Seemingly anomalous phenomena
- >=are denied first and sometimes investigated only second. Like the Fortean
- >=the debunker is not concerned with the full explanation. Whereas the
- >=Fortean types don't want explanations, the debunkers don't need them as they
- >=believe they have already them.
- >
- >'Fraid not. It's "If this particular observation can be explained in terms of
- >known phenomena, then why should we invent a new phenomenon to explain it?"
-
- Translation: "If this particular observation can be explained in terms of
- known phenomena, then why should care if it is the correct explanation?"
-
- Translation: "If we can invent a explanation in terms of known phenomena,
- then why should make any particular observations to verify it?"
-
- Translation: "If this particular observation can be explained in terms of
- known phenomena, then why should we investigate any new phenomenon not
- explained by it?"
-
- <'Fraid It's not. "If this particular observation can be explained in terms of
- <new phenomena, then why should we invent a known phenomenon to explain it?"
-
- Translation: why should we invent an explanation (using known phenomenon)
- rather than try to discover the actual explanation (especially if the
- real explanation reveals a new phenomena)?
-
- [...]
-
- >Disclaimer: Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS. That's what I get paid for. My
- >understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below). So
- >unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my
- >organization responsible for it. If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to
- >hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it.
-
- Translation: Hey, were we talking about astronomy? My organization is purely
- at the amateur level. Usually I'm so disorganized that I can avoid taking
- responsibility for anything at all. If it IS related to astronomy, then
- I had nothing to do with it. That's what I get paid for.
-
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