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- From: owen@autodesk.com (D. Owen Rowley)
- Newsgroups: alt.politics.homosexuality
- Subject: Re: The Analogy Betwixt Gays & Blacks (Re: Children in Same-gender Families)
- Message-ID: <18208@autodesk.COM>
- Date: 21 Dec 92 21:22:25 GMT
- References: <18174@autodesk.COM> <1gtiktINNdbc@hp-col.col.hp.com>
- Sender: news@Autodesk.COM
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- In article <1gtiktINNdbc@hp-col.col.hp.com>, smithw@col.hp.com (Walter Smith) writes:
- > owen@autodesk.com (D. Owen Rowley) writes:
- > > In article <1gnskcINN6ac@hp-col.col.hp.com>, smithw@col.hp.com (Walter Smith) writes:
- > > > Which leads me to a question relating to Col#2. The reason some people
- > > > voted for it was over the idea of minority status and quota preferences
- > > > for sexual preference/orientation.
- > >
- > > Did you vote for it Walter?
- >
- > Does it matter? Do *you* think I did? What makes you even ask?
-
- Yes it does matter, you had the opportunity to vote on this item, and
- I'm interested in disscussing it with someone who did.
-
- > > > Because gay-rights activists often
- > > > equate the two (blacks and gays) and equate the way they would like
- > > > to see stereotypes removed (like forced education in public schools)
- > > > there has been some credence given to the notion that the gay-rights
- > > > movement might very well want the same type of minority status, with
- > > > the attached quotas, given to homosexuals.
- > >
- > > theres that loaded language again Walter, and this time
- > > followe up by an assumption.
- > > do you know how to spell ass-u-me.?
-
- > No kidding! Am I saying that gay people *do* want quotas? Or is that
- > what you are reading between the lines? What I'm saying is, a lot of
-
- the Loaded language I was reffering to was the use of *forced education*
- Walter all public education in this country is *forced*
- when you spit out words like that making it sound like radical homosexuals
- are trying to do something different than other more reasonable people
- you distort the issue.
- I have already made my views on quotas crystal clear in another reply to
- you. Put simply I am against quota based solutions to discrimination under
- any circumstances.
-
- > people DO believe it, because they haven't heard clearly otherwise.
- > Most people don't have access to USENET like this, and don't have someoen
- > they can ask. I'm not ASSUMING that the gay-rights movement wants it,
- > I'm ASKING if they do or not.
-
- Walter, the Gay rights community can't answer here.
- you can ask individulas
- Walter, is it difficult to understand that I want to disscuss thius with
- you as a peer, and do so on an equal basis.
- i won't be relegated to lesser status.
-
- > If you're *trying* to piss me off by twisting what I write around,
- > you *are* succeeding, congratulations on your accomplishment. And
- > I'm STILL waiting to hear what this secret agenda of mine is that
- > you were taking about.
-
- Your doing a pretty good job of pissing me off too Walter.
-
- LUX ./. owen
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