NetNews Usenet Archive 1992 #31/NN_1992_31.iso/spool/alt/music/progress/4579

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From: [e-mail] (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Re: A simple question
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Date: 28 Dec 92 19:39:02 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>In article [e-mail], [e-mail] (John Fereira) writes:
|>In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
|>|I just want to raise a simple question:
|>|
|>|    << What kind of music will endure??? >>
|>|
|>|As we are suppossed to be progressive lovers/haters, please
|>|try to be objective choosing the bands and authors you think
|>|will survive...
|>
|>I'm not going to go into any specific bands but you pose an interesting
|>question.  Someone awhile back was talking about classical composers writing
|>music that will endure with that in mind.  Since many progressive bands
|>have a classical influence one would believe that progressive music would
|>endure.  Compare that to much popular music that seems only to be produced
|>for the quick buck and it seems to validate the importance of progressive
|>rock as a musical genre.
|
|Wooohoohoohoohoohoo.  This defies logic.  Let's see..."A Fifth
|of Beethoven" (disco version of Beethoven's Fifth, ca. 1975)--
|yes indeedy, a timeless classic!

Huh?  What does a disco song from the '70's have to do with that timelesses
of progressive rock?

|  Listen, I can't _think_ of
|anything more dated than "In the Court of the Crimson King" (and
|I'm a Crimson fan).  First ELP album?  "Tarkus"?  "Tales from
|Topographic Oceans"?  ANYTHING by an Italian progressive rock
|band of the early 70s?  This music was embarrassingly dated
|by 1978 or earlier.

Pick any genre, and you're going to find some crap.  You mention the
three most popular progressive rock groups around and then pick specific
examples and then claim that the genre is dated?  My definition of progressive
rock goes far beyond Yes/King Crimson/Pink Floyd/ELP.

|ANYTHING by an Italian progressive rock
|band of the early 70s?  This music was embarrassingly dated
|by 1978 or earlier.

This this include groups like Le Orme?  Ossana?  Just what do you mean by
"dated"?  That is sounds like the music of a certain time?  Does that make
it any less timeless?

|As for "progressive rock" being pure art versus the cheap disposable
|commodities of popular music, don't kid yourself.

I didn't say *all* progressive rock was pure art.  I said, in general that
compared to todays popular music which seems to be only produced to make
a quick buck progressive rock has qualities to it that are inherently more
timeless.

|  Were you around
|in 1974 when every magazine article on ELP was dominated by quotes
|of the price of Carl Palmer's drum set and Greg Lake's hand-made
|Persian rug?

Yes I was 20 in 1974 but I don't remember reading magazine articles about
ELP, the price of drum sets and persian rugs.  I never did go for fanzines.

|[at this point, our correspondent looks over his shoulder, sees an
|army of glassy-eyed, heavily armed Yes freaks headed in his direction,
|and bolts from the room in panic...]

Good idea.

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