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- From: Shadow.Spear@f236.n271.z1.fidonet.org
- Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
- Subject: More sexy banjo stuff
- X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Nov 17 1992
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- Date: 22 Dec 92 11:59:00
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- <We have witnesses who say Joseph A. Ellis Jr. spoke to All
- about More sexy banjo stuff on 12-19-92 13:57>
- JAEJ> Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
- JAEJ> From: be726@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joseph A. Ellis Jr.)
- JAEJ> Message-ID: <1h05siINN9q5@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>
- JAEJ> Reply-To: be726@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joseph A. Ellis Jr.)
- JAEJ> Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
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- JAEJ> In a previous article, Sherman.Dorn@p6.f715.n273.z1.fidonet.org ()
- JAEJ> says:
- >On <13 Dec 92 11:37>, Joe Bethancourt scribbled the following to Usenet:
- >
- > JB> But take a look at it: it is strings
- > JB> mounted on a drum-head....and this
- > JB> should be a pretty good indicator that the banjo is a PERCUSSION
- > JB> instrument as well as a STRINGED
- > JB> instrument. The banjo should have a good
- > JB> -strong- rhythmic beat, accenting and driving the rhythm of the song's
- > JB> tune and lyrics. Pay attention to that!
- >
- >Of course, any jazz musician or afficionado must note that drums, guitars,
- >basses, and pianos all are considered "rhythm" (and thus percussion) for the
- >purposes of jam sessions. We know a piano is percussion. A guitar *should*
- >be considered also a percussion instrument, as well as basses when not
- bowed.
- > Well, I guess that means drums are the only non-percussion family of
- >instruments in a rhythm section, right?
- >--- via XCS 1.00
- >
-
- JAEJ> Sorry, only the drums and piano are considered percussion instruments.
- JAEJ> Guitar and bass are strings. It has to do with normal mode of play.
- JAEJ> Percussion instrumments are struck to produce sound. Obviously drums
- JAEJ> are struck, and the hammer inside the piano strikes the strings.
- JAEJ> However, a harpsichord's strings are plucked, as are the guitar's and
- JAEJ> the jazz bass... so they're still strings. "Keyboard" covers all the
- JAEJ> synthesizers for now... but that has more to do with the control
- JAEJ> mechanism than how the actual sound is produced. Interestingly enough,
- JAEJ> the old Fender-Rhodes piano was also a percussion instrument... it had
- JAEJ> metal tines inside that were struck by hammers.
- JAEJ> That brings to mind what Joe Bethancourt said about banjo the other
- JAEJ> day, when he called it a percussion instrument. I would have to
- JAEJ> disagree. While it has a percussive _sound_, it's still in the string
- JAEJ> family, as is the dulcimer, even when played with fiddlesticks. The
- JAEJ> Hammer Dulcimer, tho, _is_ percussion.
- JAEJ> "Percussion" and "rhythm" are _not_ synonymous, the efforts of grade
- JAEJ> school 'rhythm band' teachers notwithstanding. "Percussion" defines
- JAEJ> _how_ the sound is made. "Rhythm", in the case of "rhythm section",
- JAEJ> defines the _function_ of the section in the group as a whole. The
- JAEJ> "rhythm section" provides the rhythmic foundation upon which the rest
- JAEJ> of the band builds, and serves to accent and 'set up' major rhythmic
- JAEJ> points and contrasts.
- JAEJ> (btw... this is based on about 19 years experience playing in jazz
- JAEJ> bands) (Now, isn't that more than you ever wanted to know about the
- JAEJ> subject? <<grin>> ) --
-
- Thanks for clarifying that. I was going to post about this, but as
- I do not have your experience, I am glad you did.
-
- Robert
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