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- From: bevis@ais.org (Jeremy Lechtzin)
- Subject: Re: ex-Camper Van Beethoven
- Message-ID: <Bzn99n.5Dz@ais.org>
- Organization: the ptolemaic terrascope
- References: <BzMsC6.KAv@ns1.nodak.edu>
- Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 04:46:33 GMT
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- In article <BzMsC6.KAv@ns1.nodak.edu>, mccourt@plains (Mark McCourt) wrote:
- >Several weeks ago someone posted info on what has
- >become of what was Camper Van Beethoven. I guess
- >_Monks of Doom_ is part of that group, but what became
- >of the violinist and lead vocalist? Have they formed a
- >new group? Thanks all.
- >
-
- The Monks of Doom are Victor Krummenacher, Greg Lisher, and Chris Pedersen
- (bassist, guitarist, and drummer) from Camper Van Beethoven, plus David
- Immergluck from the Ophelias.
-
- Cracker is David Lowery (lead singer/vocalist) from Camper Van Beethoven,
- plus Johnny Hickman, Davey Faragher, and Josef Peters (none of whom seem to
- be from any big bands in particular...).
-
- Other CVB alumni include Jonathan Segel, who's in Hieronymous Firebrain (as
- well as Sideways, although I've never heard anything by them or even _of_
- them except for John Relph's excellent discography available for FTP at
- cs.uwp.edu).
-
- And Morgan Fichter, who's in the Wellsprings of Hope.
-
- Chris Molla also was a key member, but no one on the net seems to know what
- he's up to now.
-
- J. Segel is chummy with the Monks. Their two bands have toured together,
- and Victor, Chris, and Jonathan all play together with Eugene Chadbourne at
- random intervals (along with a few other people).
-
- I'm not sure if Morgan is "allied" with one side or another in the Monks v.
- Cracker skirmish. I'd use the word 'acrimonius' to describe the CVB split,
- but that word is reserved by the music press for the Pink Floyd/Roger Waters
- split, sorry.
-
- I'm not sure if David Immergluck is still friendly with David Lowery. On
- the "Happy Birthday to Me" single by Cracker, the b-side is credited to
- Lowery/Immergluck, the song being "James River." But I seem to recall (it's
- not in the room with me...) that there isn't a date, so it's hard to tell if
- this is an old song or a new one. A new song by the two would be a bit odd,
- I think.
-
- CVB wizards, correct me if I've messed anything up/omitted crucial info.
-
- By the way, after listening to Cracker's _Tucson_ EP, I really like them.
- I'd say it's better than most anything on the Monks' latest disc, _Forgery_.
- This may come as a suprise to those who have have seen my previous usenet
- postings, which have uniformly bashed Cracker and praised the Monks. Still,
- I'm not willing to concede anything wrt/ Cracker's debut and the Monks'
- _Meridian_ or the _Insect God_. These Monks albums are good, and it pains
- me to see a large section of the music press gush all over Cracker and esp.
- David Lowery and completely fail to notice that the Monks have been humming
- along for a while now, putting out good music. Unfortunately for my
- argument, they've shot themselves in the foot with _Forgery_. It's not bad,
- but pretty bland.
-
- jeremy bevis@ais.org
-
-