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- From: payner@netcom.com (Rich Payne)
- Subject: Re: Why are many low-income women fat? (was Re: Separate but Equal?)
- Message-ID: <1992Dec31.035343.25285@netcom.com>
- Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
- References: <1992Dec23.082529.10340@microsoft.com> <1992Dec23.161102.400@netcom.com> <1992Dec28.072814.7365@microsoft.com>
- Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 03:53:43 GMT
- Lines: 50
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- In article <1992Dec28.072814.7365@microsoft.com> jenk@microsoft.com (Jen Kilmer) writes:
- >In article <1992Dec23.161102.400@netcom.com> payner@netcom.com (Rich Payne) writes:
- >>In article <1992Dec23.082529.10340@microsoft.com> jenk@microsoft.com (Jen Kilmer) writes:
- >>>Are you not implying that fit is better than fat?
- >>
- >>I am saying that it is healthier to be fit. I cannot say what is better
- >>or worse for you, or anyone else.
- >
- >Why doesn't "healthier" == "better"?
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- You missed the point completely. "Better" is a value judjement, there is
- no right or wrong answer. You are the only one fit to judge what is better
- for yourself, I will not do it.
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- >>It is not my call anyway.
- >>
- >>>Does it not follow from that that fat is not as good as fit?
- >>
- >>Good and bad are personal value judgements, draw your own. Personally,
- >>I'd rather be fit.
- >>
- >>>And does it not follow from that that fat people aren't as good as
- >>>people who have made themselves fit?
- >>
- >>Again with the value judgements, draw your own, I have no interest in
- >>making value judgements for enyone else.
- >
- >Please don't take this the wrong way, Rich...but do you *REALLY* not
- >make value judgements based on how fat someone appears to be, while
- >at the same time preaching being fat is a personal choice, and that
- >anyone who is fat can and should become fit???
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- This is mixed up, there is no way I can take it, much less wrong.
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- Maybe this will help, your value judgement does not have to agree with
- mine, and they are still both right. And I did not say that -being- fat is
- a personal choice, but staying that way may be.
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- >Yes, I am really *THAT* surprised.
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- I am too, please re-phrase, I canno undrstnd.
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- >-jen
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- Rich
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- payner@netcom.com
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