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- From: sheaffer@netcom.com (Robert Sheaffer)
- Subject: Re: Feminism's Lesbian Leaders (was: Why are there only men on)
- Message-ID: <1992Dec28.190731.12467@netcom.com>
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- References: <1992Dec19.162532.1921@netcom.com> <1992Dec19.173342.12140@midway.uchicago.edu> <1992Dec19.173705.12384@midway.uchicago.edu>
- Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 19:07:31 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec19.173705.12384@midway.uchicago.edu> mec6@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
- >sheaffer@netcom.com (Robert Sheaffer) writes:
- >
- >>Then there's Catharine MacKinnon, who we Americans foolishly
- >>allowed to shove her version of "sexual harassment" regulations down
- >>our throat. I'm not privy to the details of MacKinnon's private life,
- >
- >I'm pretty sure she's het.
-
- This is the woman who (in her "Toward a Feminist Theory of the State")
- calls heterosexuality "male supremacy's paradigm of sex" (p. 172).
- Also (p. 178-9):
-
- What is heterosexuality? If it is the erotization of dominance and
- submission, altering the participants' gender does not eliminate
- the sexual, or even gendered, content of aggression. If heterosexuality
- is males over females, gender matters independently. Arguably,
- heterosexuality is a fusion of the two, with gender a social outcome,
- such that the acted upon is feminized, is the "girl" regardless of
- sex, the actor correspondingly masculinized.
-
- Obviously, "heterosexuality" to Ms. MacKinnon is *not* a Good Thing.
- But Rini is pretty sure she's het.
-
- >
- >>Morgan, the editor of "Ms.", the largest-circulation feminist
- >>magazine. Again, I am not privy to the details of her sexual
- >>life. However, she calls "the family" a "disease" ("Demon Lover",
- >>p. 316), says the most horrendous things about men - they all
- >>love death, etc. - and repeatedly praises lesbianism. So one
- >>must infer from her own statements that she's a lesbian, as well.
- >
- >No, she's married to a guy.
-
- And so is NOW's Patricia Ireland, who's living in a lesbian relationship,
- nonetheless. And as the other poster noted, Morgan's involvement with
- men is *at most* through bisexuality, although she seems to be tending
- primarily toward lesbianism.
-
- And this gaggle of lesbians is presuming to instruct heterosexual,
- family-oriented women on how to deal with men! That's like turning to
- a KKK manual for advice on how to deal with Blacks and Jews.
-
- >Check yer facts Bob. It's no good spreading falsehoods.
- >
- Et tu, Rini.
-
-
- --
-
- Robert Sheaffer - Scepticus Maximus - sheaffer@netcom.com
-
- Past Chairman, The Bay Area Skeptics - for whom I speak only when authorized!
-
-
- "Mystical explanations are considered deep. The truth is that
- they are not even superficial."
-
- - Friedrich Nietzsche (The Gay Science: 126)
-