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- From: levine@symcom.math.uiuc.edu (Lenore Levine)
- Subject: Re: Boycotts (was Re: Why are many low-income women fat?)
- References: <BzxH5r.E4C@news.cso.uiuc.edu> <1992Dec27.190424.18426@wam.umd.edu> <BzxoAr.FL1@news.cso.uiuc.edu> <1992Dec27.235917.1340@wam.umd.edu>
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- Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
- Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 18:15:02 GMT
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- rsrodger@wam.umd.edu (Yamanari) writes:
-
- (Re the importance of not blaming society.)
-
- OK. I thought of a better example. When I was a teenager my family
- took me to visit Mt. Vernon. The building really upset me, because
- of the slave cabins. Yes, that's right, George Washington owned slaves!
-
- Was this right? Hell, no! Did the slaves have any reasonable chance to
- get out of slavery? Did they have decent options for their life,
- even under a good master? Of course not! Was this the fault of the
- slaves? No. Was this the fault of George Washington, who I am
- postulating was a good man? Not particularly.
-
- That is, sometimes injustices occur that are not caused by the
- moral faults of individuals. I don't know who, or what, to blame
- for them... If you don't want to call it society, call it something
- else.
-
- Some other points:
-
- 1) Before AIDS, there was not the inordinate reason to practice safe
- sex there is now. That is, the only incurable venereal disease was
- herpes, which does not cause major physical harm.
-
- I know in the 70's, reasonable and sensible people did *not* necessarily
- practice "safe sex." There *were* emotional and practical reasons not to
- be *extremely* promiscuous (have you read "Looking for Mr. Goodbar"?);
- but many people got AIDS *without* being extremely promiscuous.
-
- 2) I do not think *any* society is perfect. But I do think some are
- more just and comfortable than others. That is, there are no
- utopias, but there are a lot of horror stories.
-
- And if you are not interested in "social justice" what are you doing
- on this group? I don't see what *practical* benefit there is to you in
- it.
-
- 3) About the "Women's Studies" classes. I still think a detailed posting
- about some of these classes would be of interest to everyone.
-
- By the way, I don't think that unwise actions justify the penalty they
- incur. Nevertheless, I must say that attending a "warm and fuzzy studies"
- class, when the instructor doesn't seem to be on your side, and then
- not dropping the class, is quite unwise. I would hope that one or two bad
- grades is a lesson not to do this again.
-
- Lenore Levine
-