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- From: rsrodger@wam.umd.edu (Yamanari)
- Subject: Re: Boycotts (was Re: Why are many low-income women fat?)
- Message-ID: <1992Dec23.221605.13141@wam.umd.edu>
- Summary: Fish is gross
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- References: <Bzq9q5.78w@news.cso.uiuc.edu> <1992Dec23.210442.9390@wam.umd.edu> <BzqELE.8Hs@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
- Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 22:16:05 GMT
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- In article <BzqELE.8Hs@news.cso.uiuc.edu> levine@symcom.math.uiuc.edu (Lenore Levine) writes:
- >rsrodger@wam.umd.edu (Yamanari) writes:
- >
- >>In article <Bzq9q5.78w@news.cso.uiuc.edu> levine@symcom.math.uiuc.edu (Lenore Levine) writes:
- >> A lot of people pay this lip service, because
- >> it's the in thing to do (and, for men, the only
- >> safe thing to do around women). Still, I'll take
- >> it at face value.
- >I don't think you understand, how different the tastes of us jaded
- >middle-aged sensualists can be! I don't think I would have believed at
- >eight, how much I love sea urchin sushi now.
-
-
- Blech. Fish. Grossest thing on earth.
-
- <B?ut I can understand--as a child, I hated onions. thought
- they were some form of torture--bitter, nasty--by 16 I
- loved them--nowadays, I'm kind of ambivalent about them>
-
-
- >>>> Not the type of boycott I'm referring to. The type of boycott
- >>>> I'm referring to (feminists marching outsode the building spreading
- >>>> subversive "evidence" of sexism) is sad and immoral--it's right
- >>>> up there with Operation Rescue and Lambs of Christ in terms
- >>>> of sleaze.
- >
- >>>If you want me to comment on the *goals* of a *specific* boycott,
- >>>you have to describe them.
- >
- >> Take a look at the feminist actions against a that radio
- >> station in Canada for playing a beatles song--boy, those
- >> people would make Terry Randall proud.
- > ^^^^^ ^^^^^^^
- > Randall Terry
-
-
- Whoops. Terry Randall is the actor..
-
-
- >I am not particularly enthused about the goals of the above boycott.
-
-
- What, censorship? oppression of ideas? squashing of
- free speech?
-
- Gee, me neither.
-
- >However, I have planned a boycott myself, which I would like to
- >see implemented at some future time (and which I plan eventually,
- >to discuss with the appropriate organizations).
- >
- >There are some Silicon Valley companies which have a policy of
- >not hiring large people. I would like to create a database
- >of companies which have this policy (using appropriate safeguards for
- >accuracy -- which I am *not* an expert on, and would have to discuss
- >with those who are).
- >
- >I would then like to make this database available to those who are
- >concerned about the rights of large people, and wish to make buying
- >decisions based on this concern. I suspect that just being informed
- >that they *are* on such a list, and that it is avaiable to the
- >public, may be enough to make some companies significantly modify
- >their policies.
- >
- >I am curious what you think about this boycott idea.
-
-
- I would probably advise you that you need to take such policies
- in context. For instance, I think it's in New York, a very obese
- man is suing McDonalds for not providing a table that he can
- fit into. This man is enourmous--for McDonalds to provide
- proper seating for this mans physique would require them to halve
- (or less) the number of seats they can fitin their restaurants.
- McDonalds can seat people from 30 to 350 lb folks pretty much
- fine.
-
- That, one. Two, I would suggest that you consider whether
- these jobs are jobs that an obese individual can properly fill,
- that is, look at the activity the job involves (physical
- activity and safety, especially). Third, take a look at the
- work areas that the companies _have right now_ (I think it's
- rediculous to make them rebuild) and make sure that those
- (and not bigotry) aren't the underlying reason.
-
- After all this, there are alternatives that are better than
- boycotts. Publicity, media.
-
- Boycotts don't hurt anything but the employees of the company.
-
- >Lenore Levine
-
-
- --
- "If you can't eat sand, why the hell are you living in a desert?"
- Equality is a delusion.
- Rule 1: "Don't have more children than you can feed."
- Buy American as if your job depended on it.
-