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- From: rsrodger@wam.umd.edu (Yamanari)
- Subject: Re: Why are many low-income women fat? (was Re: Separate but Equal?)
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- Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 02:47:02 GMT
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- In article <BzML6w.Hxw@news.cso.uiuc.edu> levine@symcom.math.uiuc.edu (Lenore Levine) writes:
- >>Wonderful, I am happy for you. I am not fat, and also look a lot younger
- >>than I am (it seems to be about 10-12 years, people often ask when I seem
- >>too knowledgable and experienced my visual age, I have started asking for
- >>their guess as a condition for an answer), so this looks more like a
- >>matter of genetics. I am curious as to wether it means that one will live
- >>longer as well.
-
-
- Hate to burst your bubble, but I wouldn't put too much
- faith in this "I look younger than I am bit". *Especially*
- if such comments are coming from men.
-
- Early on, lesse--it must have been 13 or 14 for me--most
- men learn to li --*always*--to women about certain subjects.
- Even if the question is asked with a "Tell me the truth"
- or whatever, the best answer (that is, the only answer) is
- probably going to be a lie. Girl younger than 20? Tell her
- you thought she was 3 to 8 years older. Over 30? Tell her
- she looks in her twenties.
-
- What has always gotten me is that people are stupid enough
- to fall for it. Not that it's only women who buy into it--
- lord knows enough of my friends have announced proudly that their
- girlfriends thought (ha ha) that they were older than they actually
- are--but the absolute "lowness" displayed tends to be much
- greater for my female friends. They'll swallow just about
- anything (i.e. "Oh, I thought you were 20!" to a 15 year old..)
- and then *brag about it* to all of their friends.
-
- Generally, I find this good laughing material. It pisses
- me off when people try to pull the same thing with me, and
- I refuse to answer such questions.
-
- Now, if you're hitting that F key to flame me and tell me that
- men shouldn't be lying in these situations, I put forth
- two truths:
-
- 1) Women say the same things to men. Both sexes play the
- game not just with age, but with looks ("Oh, I'd never want
- someone like *that*"), fashion ("that looks great on you!")
- personality (you're so interesting, so funny, so deep, whatever)
- and so on.
-
- 2) Women (people, actually) who pose such questions as
- "How old do I _really_ look?" are *begging* to be lied
- to. Truth is not expected. Just try answering one of these
- nitwits honestly and see what kind of answer you get.
-
- Fact is, people DO, with *very few exceptions* (supermodels
- come to mind) look their age. Anyone who tells you otherwise,
- carefully consider (that is, honestly consider) how honest
- that statement is.
-
- >Of course not. But I understand from sci.math that appearance
- >discrimination against women *is* an issue. This newsgroup carried a
- >posting from a male mathematician. He was *extremely* upset, because,
- >in his role of evaluating job applications, he had received a
- >letter from a colleague, asking him to take on the "mission" of
- >finding out whether a female mathematician was cute or not!
-
-
- The same occurs for men. It is well known that
- appearance has a great deal of affect on how well one
- succeeds in life. It's not a discrimination thing, it's
- a human thing. As far as I can tell, the only way to
- solve it would be to put everyones eyes out at birth.
-
- We judge *everything* by appearance--not just people. Most
- people eat attractively prepared food despite the fact that
-
- it has little or nothing to do with taste or flavor (which
- is clearly more important). People prefer attractively styled
- furniture no matter how much more comfortable ratty looking
- chair might be.
-
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