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- From: lip@s1.gov (Loren I. Petrich)
- Subject: Re: Football: Robert Sheaffer's Central Metaphor?
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- Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 21:45:09 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec18.193705.12869@netcom.com> sheaffer@netcom.com (Robert Sheaffer) writes:
- >In article <1992Dec16.232603.3881@s1.gov> lip@s1.gov (Loren I. Petrich) writes:
- :
- : I have finally come across what seems to be the dominating
- : metaphor in Robert Sheaffer's thoughts on relations between the sexes.
- : I think that he continually makes analogies to pro football (American
- >
- >Gawrsh, I *never* thotuv that! Maybe I should sit down and watch a
- >football game sometime, so I can better understand Loren's deep
- >insight here. I attended a few football games when I was in
- >high school, and I think I even went to one in college once, but not
- >since then. I don't watch the games on TV, either; it's wonderful how uncrowded
- >the roads, shopping malls, etc. are when the 49ers are playing, and
- >I'd hate to pass up such a fine opportunity to get out and do things.
- >And Superbowl Sunday is the very best day to go visit a normally-crowded
- >tourist attraction.
-
- C'mon, I was just trying to find out what is going on in your
- mind. I guessed I goofed rather miserably, since you seem to rejoice
- at the absence of football-goers from the roads.
-
- For my part, game and concert-goers are no problem for me when
- I ride BART; I sometimes share a train with large numbers of people
- going to the Oakland Coliseum.
-
- : Women in football? Always as cheerleaders, who are usually
- : scantily clad sex objects. They are not really important to the game,
- : it must be said. I personally have nothing against exhibitionism in
- : principle, just against exploitation.
- >
- >Yes, a well-paid female actress (for that is what these are), having
- >an exciting, fast-paced life and undoubtedly dozens of highly attractive
- >suitors, is *exploited* something fierce. We've got to make them stop
- >doing this, for their own good. Frankly, I think they should
- >all be forced to wear the chador (sp?), like the cheerleaders at
- >Teheran State U.
-
- Have you ever been a cheerleader? Or do you get your ideas
- from reading Sports Illustrated and Playboy special issues on them?
-
- >Yes, feminism and prudery, cut from the same cloth.
-
- The Dworkinite feminists, yes, but you haven't heard of a
- whole group of "pro-sex" feminists, such as Susie Bright. You should
- read some of her writings sometime.
-
- And haven't you ever heard of Fundie prudery?
-
- : Those concerned about sexism will also find football
- : objectionable, though that might be corrected by setting up all-female
- : football leagues.
- >
- >And even if such were done, would anybody actually *pay money* to watch
- >the games? The audience wants the thrill of macho action, so unless you
- >can get some of your Diesel Dyke friends from Berkeley to turn pro,
- >the fans would be laughing themselves silly at the dainty way the
- >game was being played.
-
- "Dainty"? There you go again, with your silly stereotypes.
- --
- /Loren Petrich, the Master Blaster
- /lip@s1.gov
-