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- From: payner@netcom.com (Rich Payne)
- Subject: Re: Violence
- Message-ID: <1992Dec21.200019.3993@netcom.com>
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- References: <1992Dec15.134838.27623@cs.cornell.edu> <1992Dec20.171803.22588@netcom.com> <michael.724959579@glia>
- Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 20:00:19 GMT
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- In article <michael.724959579@glia> michael@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Michael) writes:
- >In <1992Dec20.171803.22588@netcom.com> payner@netcom.com (Rich Payne) writes:
- >>In article <1992Dec15.134838.27623@cs.cornell.edu> jean@cs.cornell.edu (Jean M. Petrosino) writes:
- >>> I think the men here have to stop
- >>>directing their anger at feminists who call attention to violence issues, and
- >>>re-direct their anger at the men who are committing these violent acts.
- >>Yes, when women are angry, their anger is valid. But when men voice their
- >>anger, they are misdirected. This explains a lot.
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- >That is not what she just said. But I suppose its easy to make fun of
- >someone just after you stuff words in their mouth.
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- Let the innocent poster cast the first stone. But in the act of casting
- said stone, one looses their innocence.
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- Another thing, you deleted a fair amount of text, and left not a single
- indicator, making it appear that I had posted only what you see above. This
- is either deliberately dishonest, or a mistake. You seem not to allow
- for mistakes or misunderstandings in others (or you would not post informative
- on-topic posts as you did above), so by your own methods it would seem
- that you must be guilty of dishonesty. Rini would have just edited everything
- but my sentence and said something like "You lie" (this -is- a quote).
- You are in good company.
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- Next, I did not "stuff words" in anyone's mouth. She stated that "men here
- have to stop directing their anger at feminists who call attention to violence
- issues, and re-direct their anger at the men who are committing these violent
- acts", which I read as a statement that mens anger is 'misdirected', and this
- I referred to while contrasting it to the assumption about any womens anger.
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- Lastly, her post -assumes- (in the face of evidence to the contrary) the
- -men- are the ones "committing these violent acts". And she also confuses
- crime with violence (they are -not- interchangable).
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- In short, your post was completely without merit.
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- > Michael Stanley (michael@glia.biostr.washington.edu)
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- Rich
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- payner@netcom.com
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