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- From: biow@cs.umd.edu (Christopher Biow)
- Newsgroups: alt.feminism,soc.men,soc.women
- Subject: Re: Living in a State of Siege
- Message-ID: <62971@mimsy.umd.edu>
- Date: 21 Dec 92 15:14:04 GMT
- References: <1992Dec18.184824.10383@rat.csc.calpoly.edu> <168C1CB92.SURGDM@mizzou1.missouri.edu>
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- In article <168C1CB92.SURGDM@mizzou1.missouri.edu> Diane writes:
- >In article <1992Dec18.184824.10383@rat.csc.calpoly.edu>
- >dgross@polyslo.csc.calpoly.edu (Dave Gross) writes:
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- >> "We men" are surrounded by violence from our circumcision in infancy
- >>(no anaesthesia, thank you) to being bullied in elementary school; from trying
- >>out for the football team in high school to registering for the draft; from
- >>being several times more likely than our sisters to be murdered to watching
- >>boxing on television; from visiting Arlington National Cemetery to running our
- >>fingers along the Vietnam War Memorial.
-
- >Just a few questions/answers:
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- >1) Who are the major proponents of circumcision?
- >- Doctors, the mojority of which are still men.
- ^^^^
- [spelling flame on the origins of the word "mojo" supressed]
-
- >[rest deleted--men are to blame for the violence in our society,
- >because they run it]
-
- If all faults of our society can be laid at the feet of the
- "men who run it", then so should all of its virtues. To compare
- relative virtues, we need several examples of societies run by
- women. As this is, as yet, a vacuous case, there isn't much
- point in this argument. It is unfalsifiable.
-
- (FWIW, I find our society a remarkable improvement over barbarism.
- Especially for women. Those who disagree are invited to
- move to the still "free" areas of Somalia. You'll be able to
- enjoy the fruits of the pristine state of human existence, at least until
- those awful, violent, male Marine infantry arrive.)
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