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- Newsgroups: alt.feminism
- Path: sparky!uunet!uunet.ca!geac!zooid!goid
- From: Will Steeves <goid@zooid.guild.org>
- Subject: Misandrist bullshit is no better than... (was: Mysogynist bullshit)
- X-To: JEAN M. PETROSINO
- Organization: The Zoo of Ids
- Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 02:05:00 GMT
- Message-ID: <1992Dec21.022720.957@zooid.guild.org>
- Sender: Will Steeves <goid@zooid.guild.org>
- Lines: 87
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- jean@cs.cornell.edu (Jean M. Petrosino) writes...
-
- JMP> What is this crap about 'all women are good for is doing the dishes' and
- JMP> 'women have small feet so they can get closer to the kitchen sink'? I can
- JMP> a joke, but this is over-stepping the lines of taste.
-
-
- This was said by ONE man, I recall (actually, two). Does this justify your
- angry tirade about how "superior" women are? I always considered it sexist to
- try to argue that "men are superior," but I consider it *just* as sexist to say
- "women are superior".
-
-
- JMP> How about this one:
- JMP> Why do men name their penises?
- JMP> -Because they don't want a stranger making
- JMP> 99% of their decisions for them.
-
-
- And on and on...Taking revenge may make you feel good, but doesn't go anywhere
- towards solving the real problems between men and women.
-
-
- JMP> gee, maybe women's feet are smaller because our shoes are more restrictive.
- JMP> by the way, can any of you men tell me why high heels are considered so
- JMP> attractive? Could it be the fact that they keep women at a disadvantage? (
- JMP> man can argue this with me until they wear a pair of high heels to work, et
- JMP> for a week - then we can talk) It's so easy to balance on a 3 cm heel...an
- JMP> so comfortable too!! And what about those lovely slippery soles! Those ser
- JMP> a wonderful purpose for walking now don't they?
-
- JMP> And Robert Shaeffer - don't give me that sociobiological crap about men bei
- JMP> innately superior to women because of testosterone. We don't know the true
- JMP> capacities of the female body because medical science finds it much more
- JMP> interesting to study male anatomy and simply generalize their findings to
- JMP> female anatomy.
- JMP> I say women are biologically superior because we can walk around bleeding f
- JMP> a week and not die - let's see a man try that one. And how about all the
- JMP> evidence that women's physical strength is in their ability to maintain
- JMP> physical activity as well as enduring physical pain longer then men? You ne
- JMP> seem to want to mention that. Men may be stronger in the short term, but
- JMP> women can out last them.
-
- JMP> "I don't mean to be strident and overbearing, but you know,
- JMP> NICE just doesn't cut it anymore. Like a lot of women out
- JMP> there tonight, I MAD. I'm mad because we're 51% of the
- JMP> population and only 2% of the Senate. I'm made because
- JMP> 406 men in the Senate get a pool, a sauna, and a gym, and
- JMP> WE get 6 hairdryers and a ping-pong table. I'm mad because
- JMP> in a Seminole Oklahoma police station there's a picture of
- JMP> a naked woman on the wall that says, "Women make bad cops."
- JMP> I'm mad because despite the fact that we scrub the floors,
- JMP> wash all the dishes, have all the babies, and commit VERY
- ^^^^^^^^^^^
- JMP> LITTLE of the crime, still we only make 58 cents on the dollar.
- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
-
- Not entirely true, Jean... See my post in soc.feminism.
-
-
- JMP> And I don't know about the rest of you women out there, but
- JMP> I don't care if people call me a feminist or a FRUITCAKE!
- JMP> What I'm gonna do is get into my car and drive to the center-
- JMP> most point of the United States and climb the tallest tower and
- JMP> shout, "Hey, don't get me wrong, we love ya, but WHO THE HELL
- JMP> DO YOU MEN THINK YOU ARE!!"
- JMP> -Annie Potts as Bette Davis
- JMP> Designing Women
-
-
- I understand that you're angry with the original poster, and with Robert
- Scheaffer, but why are you taking out your anger on *all* men? The hatred
- and anger seem to pour out of your every word.
-
- Men's sexism against women is now beginning to be seriously opposed. Please do
- not now allow yourself to become an example of the growing problem of the
- reverse situation.
-
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