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- Subject: Re: [anonymous] Theoretical DMT extraction from D. Illoensis
- Message-ID: <1992Dec26.200420.4329@wvnvms.wvnet.edu>
- Date: 27 Dec 92 01:37:08 GMT
- References: <1992Dec26.022945.2825@u.washington.edu>
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- In article <1992Dec26.022945.2825@u.washington.edu>, ap.7630@cupid.sai.com (Anonymous) writes:
- >
- > Lets say someone followed the following process for extraction,
- > and it didn't work, could someone please state why, and where
- > something went wrong, along with brief instructions on how to fix
- > this problem? Thanks
- >
- > (1) Milled ~.33 lb dried D. Ill. roots.
-
- Good move. I'd use a bit more myself - on the order of a kilo for
- a decent sized batch, taking into account all the losses along
- the way an amateur is likely to have. Also, if you can separate
- the "root bark" from the "root" , the former has the higher DMT
- percentage by far.
- >
- > (2) Soaked root fibers in non-polar solvent at room temp for 2 hours.
-
- Probably a bad move. DMT is soluble in non-polar and semi-polar
- solvents, e.g. chloroform, and methanol. I'd go straight for the
- methanol (or ethanol if you can't get methanol) from the first.
- >
- > (3) Drained. Then soaked in polar solvent for 4 hours at room temp.
- >
- If you're soaking things at room temperature, I'd suggest both
- long soaking times (up to a week) and especially multiple
- extractions - at least two, three is best.
-
- > (4) Drained off polar solvent, then evaporated it.
- >
- Good move. The thing is - this is only the first stage to
- producing pure alkaloids. What you have to do now is an
- acid base extraction:
-
- Dissolve the residue in dilute hydrochloric (or other) acid.
- Filter.
- Basify with sodium hydroxide.
- (this is a bit tricky with the pH - you may have to fiddle around
- quite a bit until you can get it to an optimum consistancy for
- the next stage, depending on the amount of gunk still in there)
- Extract three times with non-polar solvent (ether is great
- but dangerous, chloroform is good, dichloromethane is ok, etc)
- Combine non-polar extracts
- Backwash with salty basic water to remove any last gunk.
- Evaporate and leave on a dish to dry and crystallise.
- Smoke and enjoy.
- >
- > What should be done? Do again with heat added to solvents?
- >
- Heat will speed up and make more effective the initial extraction.
- What you have outlined is a satisfactory method for concentrating
- LSA from HBMG/HBWR or psiloc(yb)in from Psilocybe, but is not
- good for more non-polar alkaloids, and especially for DMT which has
- to be very pure in order to appreciate its full effects when smoked.
-
- If you want further details, I have files explaining the procedure
- in more detail. Mail me at jeremy@rsc3.anu.edu.au
- (but don't send to the address of this post).
-
- Jeremy
-