home *** CD-ROM | disk | FTP | other *** search
- Newsgroups: alt.drugs
- Path: sparky!uunet!Cadence.COM!phz
- From: phz@cadence.com (Pete Zakel)
- Subject: Re: Drugs + +
- Message-ID: <1992Dec21.232457.18314@Cadence.COM>
- Sender: usenet@Cadence.COM (Usenet News)
- Nntp-Posting-Host: cds709.cadence.com
- Organization: Cadence Design Systems
- References: <18144@mindlink.bc.ca> <1992Dec8.213911.3454@Cadence.COM> <1992Dec09.142410.27690@ux1.cts.eiu.edu>
- Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 23:24:57 GMT
- Lines: 55
-
- In article <1992Dec09.142410.27690@ux1.cts.eiu.edu> cfthb@ux1.cts.eiu.edu (Howard Black) writes:
- >In article <1992Dec8.213911.3454@Cadence.COM> phz@cadence.com (Pete Zakel) writes:
- >>
- >>Please note that "mother's little helper" is NOT Valium -- it is speed
- >>(amphetamines). For the obvious reasons.
- >
- > Although there's probably no way to "prove" who's right on this one, I
- >always assumed that "mother's little helper" was Valium. The song
-
- You assumed wrong, or I'm full of shit.
-
- Could be either, I suppose.
-
- >describes the harried housewife needing something to get her throught the
- >day - I guess that could be either speed or tranquilizers.
-
- Could be either, but at the time of "Mother's Little Helper", it was speed.
-
- > I don't know where your statistic about speed being the most abused
- >drug in the mid-60's comes from. At that time, Valium was the
- >most-prescribed drug (i.e., no. 1, of all drugs). Also, the song describes
- >a "little yellow pill" which is the color of 5mg Valium, while most
- >amphetamines, I think, were white.
-
- The two most popular speed colors being prescribed were black capsules
- (known on the street as "black beauties") and yellow capsules (don't know if
- there was a common street name), if my memory servers me correctly. There
- were also the well known "white crosses" of trucker fame, but I don't beleive
- these were normally being prescribed for weight reduction (at least, not
- according to my memory).
-
- Note that the most common "yellows" in the mid-sixties to early seventies were
- pentobarbitol (also called "yellow jackets").
-
- I didn't think the benzodiazapams (of which Valium is one) became popular
- until the mid-seventies -- of course, again, I still could be full of shit.
- Note that everything I'm saying is from my admittedly faulty memory, but it's
- what I thought was true.
-
- Does anyone know if the writer of the song ever specified which drug was being
- talked about?
-
- > Any other opinions?
-
-
- -Pete Zakel
- (phz@cadence.com or ..!uunet!cadence!phz)
-
- A little retrospection shows that although many fine, useful software systems
- have been designed by committees and built as part of multipart projects,
- those software systems that have excited passionate fans are those that are
- the products of one or a few designing minds, great designers. Consider Unix,
- APL, Pascal, Modula, the Smalltalk interface, even Fortran; and contrast them
- with Cobol, PL/I, Algol, MVS/370, and MS-DOS.
- - Fred Brooks, Jr.
-