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- From: yarvin@cs.yale.edu (Norman Yarvin)
- Newsgroups: alt.current-events.somalia,alt.politics.org.un,alt.president.clinton,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.bush
- Subject: Re: Somalia
- Date: 21 Dec 1992 19:32:27 -0500
- Organization: Yale Computer Science Department
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- References: <1992Dec18.171034.8814@news.columbia.edu> <1h29tiINN69d@CATHY.NA.CS.YALE.EDU> <1992Dec21.082514.28813@Princeton.EDU>
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- niepornt@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (David Marc Nieporent) writes:
- >In <1h29tiINN69d@CATHY.NA.CS.YALE.EDU> yarvin@cs.yale.edu (Norman Yarvin) says:
- >>And you still seem to think we will disarm the warlords. Explicit
- >>government statements to the contrary notwithstanding. Even the fact that we
- >>discovered a cache of weapons belonging to Aideed or one of the others, and
- >>then withdrew without confiscating them, does not seem to have enlightened
- >>you.
- >
- >But no one can say that this policy will continue; certainly not with a
- >new president taking office.
-
- There are good reasons for this policy. Clinton will be informed of them; if
- he ignores them, it will be at his own (political) peril. One reason is the
- ease of hiding weapons. Burying AK-47s so that they cannot be found would be
- trivial. Tanks and artillery would be easier to find, but Somalia is the
- size of Texas. Air- or space-based reconnaissance would be necessary. And
- not just photo surveillance either; radar would be required. The Somalis
- would hide their weapons in the visible spectrum, but they would probably
- not think to to hide them from radar, nor would they know how to do so.
- So maybe we could confiscate all the heavy weapons, but it would take the
- latest and greatest spy satellites and surveillance planes to do so.
-
- Another reason is that the warlords would not agree to be disarmed. We
- would have to fight them if we tried. We are not currently fighting them.
-
- A third reason is that if we disarm them incompletely, we have just made the
- groups we disarmed subject to the will of the remainder. And if we disarm
- them completely, we make the whole country subject to its neighbors.
-
- So to sum up these three reasons, confiscating light weapons would be
- impossible, would be dangerous, and would lead to even more social chaos.
-
- All that said, it is still possible that Clinton will screw this one up.
- After all, he is in favor of gun control in this country, and the reasons
- why gun control would not work here are along the same lines as the reasons
- it would not work in Somalia.
-
- > UN Secretary General Boutros-Ghali (sp?)
- >is pushing for the US to disarm them. Clinton may listen, if Bush doesn't.
-
- Boutros-Boutros Ghali is not responsible for the welfare of American
- soldiers.
-
- --
- Norman Yarvin yarvin@cs.yale.edu
- "Generous, adj. Originally this word meant noble by birth and was applied
- to a great multitude of persons. It now means noble by nature and is
- taking a bit of a rest." -- Ambrose Bierce, _The Devil's Dictionary_
-