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- From: floyd@hayes.ims.alaska.edu (Floyd Davidson)
- Subject: Re: Healthy Winter
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- Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 15:43:37 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec27.122041.13308@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> les@cs.stanford.edu writes:
- >In response to my remark about Alaska state subsidies on petroleum
- >products sent to native villages, Floyd Davidson writes:
- > Are you seriously suggesting that the above is even a significant
- > factor in the current state budget, the economy, or for that matter
- > much of anything else? The amount of petroleum products used in
- > all of bush Alaska is a drop in the bucket compared to what Anchorage
- > uses. [. . .]
- >
- >No, I was not suggesting that these subsidies constitute a major part
- >of the state budget. What I was suggesting is that specifically
- >encouraging the use of more petroleum products but with no emphasis
- >on developing a sustainable economy in native areas is simply setting
- >them up for a fall. If the state is willing to give those additional
- >funds to the native groups then they should provide the subsidies in
- >the form of cash so that it may be spent according to their perceived
- >needs rather than only for petroleum products.
-
- That's an interesting switch in your perspective from the original
- article you posted. Before you were concerned about the state
- budget and spending policies and compared permanent fund dividend
- payments and the above mentioned subsidy as being obvious things
- that the state was mismanaging.
-
- Now you are concerned about how to avoid problems you percieve as
- relating to native villages. First it may not have occured to you
- that the subsidy is NOT for native groups, which is why it is not
- delivered in cash to them or anyone else. You seem to know enough
- about the Bethel area that you should know that there are many
- non-Native residents.
-
- And the way you are making your statements has led at least a couple
- of readers, myself included, to suspect that you really just don't
- want Native people to be included in whatever prosperity the state
- might be enjoying. You articles have a "keep 'em down on the farm"
- tone to them.
-
- By the way, what exactly do you expect someone living in Eek or
- Kongiganuk to use in place of petroleum products? Or in Bethel
- or in Aniak?
-
- Or in Anchorage? And why is it ok for people in Willow to
- build up a false infrastructure using oil and oil money, but
- not ok to do the exact same thing in Akiak?
-
- >I'm not familiar with the North Slope situation, but if the native
- >organizations in that area are actually doing something about their
- >future then they are doing much better than groups in most areas.
- >All too many native corporations have been taken in by fast-talking
- >charlatans and swindlers.
-
- I think a number of such characters have tried. I don't see where
- they had much if any success. The North Slope Borough, which I
- commented on, is of course NOT a "native organization" as such...
- The two regional corporations that I see the most of are Calista
- and Doyon, neither of which has big bucks, but both of which have
- done wonders in their particular areas.
-
- > Not to mention the state government that
- >apparently wants to keep them in a state of perpetual dependence.
-
- What do you call it when someone suggests that (while it is OK to
- fund road maintenance for Anchorage and other predominately "white"
- parts of the state) it is a waste of state money to in any way
- share the state's wealth, and especially it's low oil prices, with
- the less "white" parts of the state?
-
- You have only suggested things you want to take away from "native"
- villages, and reasons to NOT include them in programs, but you
- haven't suggested one single project that would build the
- "sustainable economy" that you mentioned.
-
- Maybe the solution is to make everyone in Anchorage burn wood for
- a couple years to keep warm! Two years later there would be no
- greater amount of money, but there would be fewer of us left to
- spread it amongst too! And if everyone in Fairbanks had to wear
- clothing that in no way was derived from any Native technology
- that would put a real chill on overspending there too!
-
- See, I'm just as silly as you.
-
- Floyd
-
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- floyd@ims.alaska.edu A guest on the Institute of Marine Science computer
- Salcha, Alaska system at the University of Alaska at Fairbanks.
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