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- From: cescript@mtu.edu (Charles Scripter)
- Subject: Re: Weinberger's Pardon
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- References: <1992Dec30.122028.2193@engage.pko.dec.com> <bhayden.725732024@teal> <1992Dec31.134027.25084@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
- Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 21:29:01 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec31.134027.25084@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>,
- jlinder@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Jeffrey S Linder) writes:
-
- > But aren't we talking about foreign policy though? Besides the ability
- > to declare war, what foreign policy powers are given to Congress in the
- > Constitution?
-
- Article 1, Section 8: "The Congress shall have Power..."
-
- paragraph 3: "To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the
- several States, and with the Indian Tribes;"
-
- I think this clause give Congress the Constitutional power to pass such
- a law. Not to declare foreign policy, but to control foreign trade (which
- was the issue at hand).
-
- > If there are none, passing laws restricting the FP powers
- > of the executive branch would seem to me to be unconstitional.
-
- Article 2, Section 2, paragraph 2:
-
- "He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of
- the Senate to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the
- Senators present concur; ...."
-
- This section seemed to be closest to the discussion at hand. This
- doesn't make it real clear that Congress was limiting the President's
- Constitutional power. Perhaps someone can give a pointer to a
- better/different section.
-
- > As an aside, the facts about IranContra have been known to Congress for
- > years. Why didn't the Congress impeach Reagan then if things were so
- > awful? These frivolous charges by Walsh against Weinberger before the
- > election were thrown out. The press release from the Clinton campaign
- > was dated before the indictment. This smacks of political dirty tricks
- > that are supposed to be the forte of the Republicans (wait... Walsh is a
- > Republican.... hmmmmm?)
-
- I wonder if we can get Walsh to go after those other Law breakers?...
- (I'm talking about Congress... ;-) Congress has enumerated Powers
- in Article, Section 8, and the 10th Amendment limits them to only
- their Constitutionally enumerated powers. Since they have ALL sworn
- to uphold the Constitution, any bill exceeding those enumerated powers
- is a violation to their oath of office (they have *VIOLATED* the Law
- of the Land!!!)
-
- Article 6, Section 2:
-
- "This Constitution ... shall be the supreme Law of the Land;..."
-
- Article 6, Section 3:
-
- "The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, ... shall be
- bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; ..."
-
- Does anyone else think that Congress has passed any bill which fails
- to fall under Article 1, Section 8? I certainly do!
-
- --
- Charles Scripter * cescript@phy.mtu.edu
- Dept of Physics, Michigan Technological University, Houghton, MI 49931
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- "...when all government... in little as in the great thing, shall be
- drawn to Washington as the centre of all power, it will render
- powerless the checks provided of one government on another and will
- become as venal and oppressive as the government from which we
- separated." Thomas Jefferson, 1821
-