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- From: adams@spss.com (Steve Adams)
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- Subject: Re: _Jesus: A Life_ by A.N. Wilson
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- Date: 2 Jan 93 16:13:12 GMT
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- muttiah@thistle.ecn.purdue.edu (Ranjan S Muttiah) writes:
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- >In article <adams.725913927@spssig> adams@spss.com (Steve Adams) writes:
- >>tp0x+@cs.cmu.edu (Thomas Price) writes:
- >>Depending on datings, either all, or nearly all, of Paul's letters were
- >>written BEFORE the Gospels. The earliest Gospel, Mark, has no post
- >>resurection appearences of Jesus in the best early manuscripts. The tomb
- >>is empty, and 'a young man in a white robe' told the women that Christ was
- >>risen.
- >>Gospel/Acts dates:
- >> Mark.................50-70AD
- >> Matthew..............55-75AD
- >> Luke.................59-75AD
- >> John.................53-85AD
- >> Acts.................63-70AD*
- >>* Could be much later than 70, and no earlier than 'Luke'
- >
- >Interesting. I would be a little hesitant about dates earlier than 68-70AD
- >when the Jerusalem Temple was "attacked" by the Roman army, after which
- >everyone was feverishly trying to blame one another (i.e., the reason for
- >rise of Xtianity). But I would be interested in knowing your source.
-
- In this case, the particulars were from the NIV Study Bible (Zondervan),
- but only 'cause I had that handy. The date ranges were confirmed by a
- Biblical Theology class I had, and it's text. That text was:
-
- _An Introduction to the Bible: A Journey into Three Worlds_
- Hauer, Christian E and Young, William A.
- Prentice Hall, Englewood Cliffs, NJ, 1990
-
- It (being fairly 'liberal') gives 70AD as the most likely time for Mark,
- while stating that tradition holds 64AD as the date. More 'conservative'
- scholars (ie fundamentalists & some evengelicals) give earlier dates.
-
- For Matthew, it gives even later possible dates, as late as 80AD. For
- Luke/Acts, 80AD to as late as 100AD, and for John, 80-100AD.
-
- The big question is who wrote them. If you assign the traditional
- authorship, late dates are tough, because of the advanced age of the
- authors. If you are willing to reject traditional authorship, then
- the dates open up quite a bit.
-
- As for the sack of Jerusalem, that particular event would have little
- effect on the Gospels dating, except in a textual-historical way (ie,
- references or suppositions of the destruction of the temple). Mark was
- most likely written in Rome, Matthew likely in Anthioch, Luke most likely
- NOT in Palestine (because of negative evidence - lack of knowledge of
- geography), and John unknonwn (no theories in either reference).
-
- -Steve
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