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- From: graham@cs.washington.edu (Stephen Graham)
- Subject: Re: soviet atrocities rarely revealed in establishment media
- Message-ID: <1992Dec31.215631.18444@beaver.cs.washington.edu>
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- Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
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- Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 21:56:31 GMT
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- In article <C04sno.149@csisun.uucp> jburnes@csisun.uucp (Jim Burnes) writes:
- >Mr Bacon writes about little known post-WWII history:
-
- It's not particularly obscure. IMAO, anyone reasonably conversant with
- immediately post-WWII history knows of it.
-
-
- >After spending the last 4 or 5 years scanning intelligence literature
- >I stumbled upon the same Stalinist atrocities you speak of.
- >
- >What is even more startling than this is the fact that the US govt
- >either wittingly or unwittingly helped them out. Several testimonies
- >of US soldiers who, after the fall of Berlin, helped herd supposed
- >"war" criminals onto trains heading toward the Soviet Union. These
- >war criminals were men, women, children etc. Apparently these
- >people were either put in concentration camps in the USSR or
- >simply shot there.
-
- This was all part of the massive repatriations carried out after WWII,
- much as French citizens or Allied POWs in Soviet-held territory were
- returned to their respective countries.
-
- Bear in mind that those returned to Soviet controlled fell into three
- categories:
-
- 1) Soviet POWs, returned to Red Army control as was proper.
- 2) Forced labor, perhaps more questionable, but not improper.
- 3) Soviet citizens serving in the German armed forces, returned
- for trial.
-
- While the fate of category 1 & 2 returnees was extraordinarily harsh,
- you would be hard-pressed to prove that the Western Allies knew this
- would happen. Category 3 returnees were treated much as their counterparts
- from other Allied armies were.
-
- >Apparently what they were were people who were definitely anti-communist
- >and needed to be supressed/eliminated in order to stabilize the
- >eastern european pro-communist regimes to come. If you remember, prior
- >to the outbreak of WWII there was a very strong Hegelian dialectic
- >running through Germany - the communists and the nazi were polarized
- >in the extreme.
-
- I would take the viewpoint that whether or not these individuals were
- anti-communist is immaterial. Committing treason in wartime is apt to
- have fatal consequences.
- >
- >Authors "in-the-know" including Alexander (sp?) Scholtzenietzen (in his
- >book "The Gulag Archipelago") speculate that the deal was cut during
- >the Allied Summit in Yalta, USSR before the end of the War.
- >
- >I not saying this is all absolutely true....just stuff I stumbled
- >upon in my research.
-
- It's all perfectly true. However, it's nothing new. We've known for
- years that this was what Stalin's regime was like.
-
-
- --
- Stephen Graham
- graham@cs.washington.edu uw-beaver!june!graham
-