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- From: Dr. Norman J. LaFave <lafave@ial4.jsc.nasa.gov>
- Subject: Re: Weinberger's Pardon
- Message-ID: <1992Dec30.195442.29596@aio.jsc.nasa.gov>
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- References: <1992Dec28.200756.18681@cs.ucla.edu> <1hqqbuINN5qa@spim.mti.sgi.com> <1992Dec30.122028.2193@engage.pko.dec.com> <bhayden.725732024@teal>
- Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 19:54:42 GMT
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- In article <bhayden.725732024@teal> Bruce Hayden, bhayden@teal.csn.org
- writes:
- >> The big deal is that Reagan/Bush and company felt they could do
- >> anything they damn well pleased even though Congress and most of
- >> the American people said NO to giving military support to the Contras.
- >
- >Most of the American people?? Where do you get that??
- >This was a policy dispute between a Republican president and a
- >Democratic congress.
-
- Don't muddy this with partisanship. The special prosecutor happens
- to be a very ethical conservative Republican thus blowing this silly
- interpretation out of the water. I'm sure there are partisan aspects to
- this but it does not change the fact that these people believed themselves
- to be above the law.
-
- >You forget that Reagan was elected by these
- >same people that you assume so glibly opposed his policies, by
- >a margin significantly higher than Slick Willy's "Mandate".
-
- This has nothing to do with whether there is enough evidence to
- bring these people to trial or not. I doubt Reagan's so-called mandate
- included Godhood in the minds of most of his supporters.
-
- >
- >> To Reagan/Bush this obviously meant, lets sell some arms to `moderate'
- >> Iranian leaders so that maybe they'll release our hostages, take the
- >> money made from the deal, skim a percentage off the top to line our
- >> pockets for the good idea we came up with and send the rest down
- >> to support the Nicaraguan opposition
- >
- >And exactly how many people working for Reagan have been convicted
- >of lining their pockets? Especially with a $31 million dollar budge
- >(so far) to root out the evil..
-
- We'll never know. Bush has guaranteed that the facts will remain
- buried under the rugs they were swept under.
-
- >
- >> No big deal.... Laws? What laws?
- >
- >>>It's all just a big liberal-sponsored
- >>>witch-hunt.
- >
- >
- >> Oh sure. Lifetime conservative Republican Lawrence Walsh is now a
- >> liberal on a witch hunt. Too bad we don't have more like him. You know,
- >> the kind of person who doesn't take sides based on their political
- >> affiliations......
- >
- >I think that a lot of attorneys would have found a lot of dirt for
- >$31 million.
-
- Most attorneys are not dealing with the single most powerful individual
- on the planet.
-
- >You can live a long time on that much money. Besides,
- >Walsh has had little to do with the prosecution for a while. There
- >are a number of fairly activist prosecutors running the show anymore,
- >without any effective control.
-
- Name them. Show me where Walsh has approved of the pardon.
-
- >
- >>> Why should such a powerful position be given to just one
- >>>person?
- >
- >
- >> Because the legislative and executive branches granted him that
- >> power......
- >
- >
- >>> He doesn't have to answer to *anyone*. That's just not right,
- >>>IMHO.
- >
- >
- >> That's the whole point. He's not a liberal on a witch hunt nor a
- >> conservative trying to protect his buddies. He's out solely for the
- >> truth wherever the cards may fall....
- >
- >And $31 million dollars. After all, aren't all conservative
- >republicans greedy?
-
- Do you really think that is his salary???? :-/
- >
- >> Doing "unpopular" or "politically incorrect" things to get the job
- done
- >> is fine with me and most likely the rest of the people of the country,
- it's
- >> when people break the law and feel they are above the law when caught
- is
- >> what, well frankly, pisses me off......
- >
- >Which laws are you talking about? Jaywalking? Lying to Congress?
-
- Lying to Congress, embezzling government funds, circumventing national
- policy, ....
-
- >
- >>> It's the way the world works. It may not sit well with
- >>>the average citizen whose only link to the rest of the world is CNN
- Headline
- >>>News.
- >
- >> Seems to me that may be YOUR only link to the rest of the world from
- your
- >>above statements.....
- >>>
- >>>Ah, but this is all speculation on our part. The only one who knows
- >>>the "real" story are the people involved.
- >> Yeah, like Gene Hausanfus, Ollie North, Poindexter, Secord, McFarlane
- >> (who for all intents and purposes admitted to what was going down),
- etc.,
- >> etc.,....ad nauseum.....
- >
- >Yes - and he thought (and probably thinks to this day) that he was
- >being patriotic in what he was doing.
-
- Delusion is not a defense.
-
- >
- >> Ahh... something we can agree on. IF the Clinton administration pulls
- >> anything similar or feels THEY are above the law, then I hope Walsh
- >> will be re-instated as a Special Prosecutor and go after those people
- >> with the same amount of enthusiasm.....
- >
- >I don't expect to see the criminalization of policy differences
- >between a democratic president and a democratic congress.
-
- Speculation of the opposition's future behavior is not a defense.
-
- Norman
-
- Dr. Norman J. LaFave
- Senior Engineer
- Lockheed Engineering and Sciences Company
-
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- When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro
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