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- From: jac54@cas.org ()
- Subject: Re: Reply to Marc Talbot #2
- Message-ID: <1992Dec29.192726.21611@cas.org>
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- Organization: Chemical Abstracts Service, Columbus, Ohio
- References: <1hj1qcINN1ak@news.cerf.net>
- Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 19:27:26 GMT
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- In article <1hj1qcINN1ak@news.cerf.net> eidetics@nic.cerf.net (Eidetics Int'l) writes:
- >From Jon Volkoff, mail address eidetics@cerf.net
- >
- >bill@cognet.ucla.edu (William M. Eldridge @ UCLA Cognitive Science Research
- >Program) writes:
- >>You of course ignore my disappointment when Beter introduced
- >>his robotoids, something much more difficult to pull off than
- >>hovering particle-beam weapons. Any explanation for how
- >>Russians or Americans could have given robots convincing
- >>personalities at the highest strata of American public
- >>politics 15 years ago, when even now, natural language
- >>understanding and human-like motor control still appear
- >>to be problems far surpassing our current expectations
- >>for the next 25 years, especially when one considers the
- >>state of Integrated Circuitry in 1978?
- >
- >Simple: the computer brains of these biological robots were not electronic,
- >but biological themselves. They were not tied to the state of IC technology
- >then current.
- >
- >The Russians produced their robotoids at Novosibirsk Science City using
- >holographic image acquisition and storage techniques of the applicable neuron
- >patterns, discussed in more detail in Audio Letter #47. They obtained these
- >images using a special ultrasonic cerebral hologram method. The genetic DNA
- >coding necessary to reproduce the rest of the person was obtained by other
- >methods. The rest of the robotoid was then generated using a close relative
- >of recombinant DNA techniques using bacteria (i.e. breaking up and splicing
- >together DNA from different sources).
- >
- >The Americans (or more accurately, the Rothschild/Bolshevik/Zionist faction)
- >were able to produce their synthetic automatons using other means. They
- >obtained genetic samples from the people to be simulated, extracted the DNA,
- >then injected it into certain tissues extracted from cattle as the starting
- >point in the generation process. This method, however, produced inferior
- >biological computer brains as compared to the actual person or to the Russian
- >robotoid holographic simulation of such, and they acted dull-witted compared to
- >these. The background of this is discussed in more detail in Audio Letter #51.
-
- I was at the cutting edge of recombinant DNA technology in
- 1978 so I think I can safely opine that this is gibberish.
-
- The first question to be asked is, having obtained a complete
- map of the neuron connections of the individual nervous system
- (a challenge still beyond us), what did they transfer it to to
- make a working brain, and how?
-
- I am curious about how it was possible to run a program the
- size of the Human Genome Program in secret, at least 20 years
- ago with the technology then available. This program would
- actually be much larger because the technology involved was more
- labour-intensive and a lot slower. As for hiding it, where did
- all the equipment and reagents come from? The tooth fairy?
- Where did all the neurobiologists come from to do all the
- clever brain mapping stuff?
-
- Furthermore, you don't inject naked DNA into a cows ovum, it
- degrades, and the egg ejects anything it can't find a use for.
- How do you suppose a 50 year-old human like John Young was
- created in a few days/months/years? You would do better by
- injecting an intact nucleus into an enucleated ovum and
- implanting that. That would give the zygote enough time
- to begin immunosuppression before too many human antigens
- appeared on the surface of the trophoblast.
-
- Alec Chambers
-