home *** CD-ROM | disk | FTP | other *** search
- Path: sparky!uunet!pipex!ibmpcug!mantis!news
- From: Jeffrey D Koperski <jkopersk@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
- Newsgroups: alt.atheism.moderated
- Subject: Re: FAQ critique
- Message-ID: <1992Dec22.135737.13846@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
- Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 13:57:37 GMT
- References: <1992Dec17.22015 <1992Dec21.134412.29629@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
- Sender: atheism@mantis.co.uk
- Distribution: world
- Organization: The Ohio State University
- Approved: atheism@mantis.co.uk
- Lines: 34
-
- I don't want to be overly critical about philosophical points made by those
- with a limited background in philosophy, but there is little doubt that science
- is a fact stating discourse (i.e., its declarative sentences purport to be
- true). Barring some kind of irrealism about theoretical science, which is an
- option but one that non-philosophers seldom stuble upon, the hard sciences are
- usually held up as the exemplar of a fact stating discourse.
-
- If science could only operate "via negativa" as you propose, you will be hard
- pressed to explain engineering applications of theory. One cannot build a
- rocket knowing only what we cannot truthfully say about the world.
-
- So far as models go, for any set of data, there is perhaps an infinite number
- of models that can fit it. Kuhn does an adequate job explaining this notion
- which is technically known as the Quine-Duhem thesis or the underdetermination
- of theory by data. In late 20th-century philosophy of science, this notion is
- a pillar. Falsifying a cluster of this infinite number of models is certainly
- a part of science, but it cannot be the whole of science.
-
- >Theology attempts to decide what is true, by non-rational means.
- >Science, on the other hand, decides what is false, by rational means.
- >The idea that science reveals truth is indeed non-rational, and if you
- >once believed it, it is not surprising that your faith was shaken.
-
- Hmm. It's hard to be charitable on this one. You probably mean to say that
- theology is non-empirical instead of non-rational. Although this is not
- completely true, it suffices. However, neither is philosophy and if you wish
- to argue that this discpline is non-rational, I'll let the philosophers in your
- own camp take you to task on that score. I addressed your second sentence
- above and I can't quite figure out the last one. I think you mean to say "The
- sentence 'science reveals truth' is false." If so, then I also addressed this.
-
- Jeff Koperski
- Dept. of Philosophy
- Ohio State
-