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- From: maxtal@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (John MAX Skaller)
- Subject: Re: What is Object Oriented Programming? Is C doomed?
- Message-ID: <1992Dec28.035257.22889@ucc.su.OZ.AU>
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- References: <id.IDYV.8C9@ferranti.com> <1992Dec23.085942.29270@ucc.su.OZ.AU> <id.RJ3W.CPI@ferranti.com>
- Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 03:52:57 GMT
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- In article <id.RJ3W.CPI@ferranti.com> peter@ferranti.com (peter da silva) writes:
- >In article <1992Dec23.085942.29270@ucc.su.OZ.AU> maxtal@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (John MAX Skaller) writes:
- >> >Examples? When I have a lot of tedious coding, I generally write a
- >> >program to write the program for me.
- >
- >> Even with the best tools, say a DBMS, you still
- >> have to type in the field names, lengths, valididty
- >> conditions etc. After you'vr done this sort of thing 20
- >> times before, there is no design to do, you know how to
- >> do it, you just have to get stuck into it and do it.
- >
- >That's not programming any more. That's data entry.
-
- I agree. So almost all the 'stuff' I do as a programmer
- is data entry. I find the time it takes to type in a program
- a major obstacle to meeting deadlines (I cant type properly).
-
- Its sometimes difficult to explain that to get
- that simple screen working required three days of typing.
-
- >
- >If the program the customer is paying for is small or random enough that
- >a canned solution won't work, and a custom generator isn't cost-effective,
- >then you're stuck. I'm not sure how you could get into a situation like
- >that after the first couple of jobs: you did say this was stuff you'd done
- >bunches of times before... then you should already have something close
- >to the generator you need in your pocket.
-
- No, there are always just enough differences to make it
- impractical to implement a solution. At least that was definitely
- the case before I started using C++. Now at least I can
- reduce some of the overhead with C++ facilities for reusability.
-
- As to how I got stuck in this situation: amoung the
- reasons might be that the market in Australia in small enough
- and the number of programmers large enough that there is
- never enough work similar enough to do what you describe.
-
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