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- From: parker@ehsn17.cen.uiuc.edu (Robert S. Parker)
- Subject: Re: Embryos as Property?
- References: <1992Dec16.155842.17381@zooid.guild.org> <lairdb.724566025@crash.cts.com> <nyikos.724958698@milo.math.scarolina.edu> <lairdb.725057848@crash.cts.com> <1h98toINN59@gap.caltech.edu> <lairdb.725231193@crash.cts.com>
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- Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
- Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 08:13:05 GMT
- Keywords: Property rights, abortion, compensation for involuntary loss...?
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- lairdb@crash.cts.com (Laird P. Broadfield) writes:
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- >In <1h98toINN59@gap.caltech.edu> peri@cco.caltech.edu (Michal Leah Peri) writes:
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- >>It is not being squelched on the grounds that it's "icky". It's being
- >>squelched on the grounds that it is patently false. An embryo is
- >>*not* a body part of the mother.
-
- >Based on...? Few disciplines I'm aware of accept proof-by-assertion; on
- >what basis do you draw the line? How do you distinguish a few cells of
- >embryo from a few cells of skin?
-
- Well, the fact that they are genetically distinct is one big way, even though
- *detecting* that may be essentially impossible with current technology.
-
- On the other hand, the embryo (we're talking pre-viability here) is nowhere
- near being a separate, independent organism; it recieves *all* of its
- sustinence from the mother's blood (after implantation) or from the reserves
- of the egg (before implantation) which also came from the mother. Without
- the resources of the mother, the embryo would not survive. It is probably
- in that sense that was meant in the original post that the embryo is "part"
- of the mother.
-
- >--
- >Laird P. Broadfield lairdb@crash.cts.com ...{ucsd, nosc}!crash!lairdb
-
-
- -Rob, who wonders why people insist on arguing over the obvious and the trivial
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- Life began billions of years ago and hasn't stopped since.
- Human life began thousands of years ago and hasn't stopped since.
- An organism's life begins at conception (for sexually reproducing species).
-
- All of these are obvious, trivial, and irrelevant since it is not always wrong
- to kill a lifeform or a sexually reproducing organism, and it is not always
- wrong to kill a human (the death penalty for extreem crimes)--depending on
- your philosophy.
-
- Try arguing about the beginning of an *individual* (a *mind*, as opposed to a
- mere *life*)--but be prepared to justify and defend your assertions. 8-)
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