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- From: jmfuchs@unix.amherst.edu (JESSE MICHAEL FUCHS)
- Subject: Re: Morally good necessary possible sometimes possible reproduction
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- Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:44:43 GMT
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- Michael Zeleny (zeleny@husc10.harvard.edu) wrote:
- > In article <1992Dec14.071436.9259@athena.mit.edu>
- > zhu@athena.mit.edu (Erin Zhu) writes:
- >
- > >In article <Bz5yrn.BLs@unix.amherst.edu>
- > >jmfuchs@unix.amherst.edu (JESSE MICHAEL FUCHS) writes:
- >
- > JMF:
- > >> What does my pal Mikhail
- >
- > YEZ:
- > >Using the term 'pal' rather loosely, aren't we.
- >
- > Come now, Skippy is obviously alluding to the French meaning of the
- > word, as he indulges in predictably masochistic, receptive fantasies.
- > As for the looseness of fit, I don't dare speculate. Yet another
- > victim of Vlad the Impaler?
- I have no idea what my good buddy is talking about here. As for the
- reasons that I call Mickey my pal, see my response to Erin. Vlad the Impaler?
- But I have to admit, I do like the nickname Skippy.
- >
- > JMF:
- > >> have to say about oral sex between us
- > >>breeders?
- >
- > YEZ:
- > >Is that to be considered a proposition? I'm sure he'd be flattered.
- >
- > Yes, it isn't every day that someone offers to undergo a sex change
- > operation, for the sole purpose of becoming eligible to suck me off.
- > Still, I must regretfully decline: aside from the question of Skippy's
- > impaired genotype, I just can't take the risk of coming so close to
- > absolute vacuum.
- Well, I guess I sort of phrased that wrong. I meant "us" as a general
- group, not me and Mickey personally, although I'm sure it would be...um...uh...
- well, it would be an event.
- >
- > JMF:
- > >>That's not reproductive in any possible world, but I can't imagine
- > >>him objecting to some woman offering him a blow job...
- >
- > YEZ:
- > >Then one is afraid that your imagination is sadly lacking. Although
- > >such objections would be based on aesthetic reasons rather than moral
- > >ones, I'd imagine.
- >
- > In the final analysis, it will amount to the same thing. Someone so
- > blitheringly stupid, can't help being ugly as well.
- Really? I've always felt that people who are as blitheringly stupid
- as myself are usual sort of cute. Seems to be my experience, unfortunately.
- However, Mickey is right - I would not make a cute woman. But then again, as
- I explained previously, that's not my point.
- >
- > JMF:
- > >> although, then again,
- > >>maybe he doesn't have that problem. After all, Kant was a virgin his entire
- > >>life - I suspect that this is probably the only way in which Mikhail could
- > >>compare any aspect of himself to a guy like Kant at all.
- >
- > YEZ:
- > >Relax, Jesse, I promise I won't leak any information which might make
- > >you (gasp!) reconsider your set-in-stone image of your dear pal.
- > >After all, what could one possibly take for granted in this world if
- > >_that_ was to change?
- >
- > Well, if you don't tell him, I will. You see, Skippy, Kant didn't
- > remain a virgin. His students managed to persuade him that a moral
- > philosopher of his stature had to have experienced the sensations of
- > carnal union, if only once. So they conducted him to a brothel, and
- > the old Manny did the deed. Whereupon his students inquired about his
- > impressions, provoking Kant to his famous description of intercourse:
- >
- > "A succession of senseless, haphazard motions."
- Um, Mickey? I think she was referring to my set-in-stone image of you,
- which I assure you still holds a legendary stature. While I always thought
- that story was just one of those mythical anecdotes, I'll take your word that
- it's true. My mistake.
- >
- > JMF:
- > >> But then again, maybe I'm just being rude.
- >
- > YEZ:
- > >You? The soul of sincere good manners, charm, and wit? NO!?!
- >
- > JMF:
- > >> -jesse "I'm not defined by my dick" fuchs
- >
- > YEZ:
- > >Impressive, indeed. Manly defiance with a splash of boyish charm, a
- > >pinch of quirky vulgarity, a smidgen of ironic distance...
- >
- > I dissent: clearly Skippy wishes to excuse the negligibility of the
- > definiendum by the lack of the definiens.
- Wow. Small penis jokes. Mickey's more fun than an entire collection of
- Masters of The Universe action figures, let me be telling you. Personally, I
- don't like to define myself by my sexual proclvities. Okay, I'm attracted to
- woman, and I'm not attracted to men, but who the heck cares?
- >
- > > --Erin
- > >
- > >
- >
- > cordially,
- > mikhail zeleny@husc.harvard.edu
- > "Le cul des femmes est monotone comme l'esprit des hommes."
-
- -jesse "A winner in the game of Life" fuch
-