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- From: parker@ehsn17.cen.uiuc.edu (Robert S. Parker)
- Subject: Re: New Hypothetical question for pro choice.
- References: <8DEC92.18124392@vax.clarku.edu> <1992Dec8.191112.12951@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> <8DEC92.20284408@vax.clarku.edu> <Bz5w89.Bts@news.cso.uiuc.edu> <13DEC92.08370067@vax.clarku.edu>
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- Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 09:17:15 GMT
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- lfinkelstein@vax.clarku.edu writes:
-
- >In a previous article, parker@ehsn21.cen.uiuc.edu (Robert S. Parker) wrote:
- >>
- >>Murder is the deliberate killing of an innocent "person". There are cases
- >>where the deliberate killing of an innocent *human* is not "murder". For
- >>instance, severely brain-damaged coma patients who will never "wake up". It
- >>is reasonable to allow them to die (stop life support, thus "killing" them),
- >>even though they are still *human*.
-
- >What if the brain damaged coma patient is healing (Somehow), and is expected
- >to, eventually, wake up. Is it murder then?
-
- If we *realized* that they were "going to wake up", then we have a larger
- responsibility to keep them alive. From what I understand of what it "means"
- to be in a coma, I do not believe that most coma patients are "people" at the
- time. They *were* a person in the past, which gives us a responsibility to try
- to bring them back if it is possible. If it is not possible, either through
- biological or medical limitations, or due to limitations of resources then it
- can not be "immoral" for us to "give up". Thus even if they were "expected"
- to wake up, it would not be "murder" to stop life support (under the conditions
- where it is currently allowed in certain states, at least).
-
- Some will complain that this takes rights away from someone for being in a coma.
- On the other hand, it means that a person directly responsible for putting a
- person in a permanent coma is guilty of murder. It is when the rights were
- lost (when they went into a coma) as a result of the actions of someone that an
- immoral act occurred. It is the person who is responsible for the coma that
- has taken the rights away from someone.
-
- These are, of course, only my opinions.
-
- -Rob
-