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- From: dietz@cs.rochester.edu (Paul Dietz)
- Subject: Re: Terminal Velocity of DCX? (was Re: Shuttle ...)
- Message-ID: <1992Dec15.200752.13747@cs.rochester.edu>
- Organization: University of Rochester
- References: <ewright.724021208@convex.convex.com> <1992Dec11.175719.24880@ke4zv.uucp> <ewright.724443671@convex.convex.com>
- Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:07:52 GMT
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- >In <1992Dec11.175719.24880@ke4zv.uucp> gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman) writes:
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- > Snide remarks not withstanding, chamber pressure isn't the only form
- > of stress on a vehicle. While I like Truax's Sea Dragon proposal
- > on several grounds, the low chamber pressures lead to very high
- > loads on the turbopumps because so much more fuel per unit time
- > has to flow to achieve the high thrust required with low pressure
- > engines. Reducing stress in one area can lead to increased stress
- > in another area when the objective remains to get a vehicle from
- > surface to orbit in a single leap. The high speed pumps, not combustion
- > chamber stresses, are the main reliability concern of liquid fuel rockets
- > anyway.
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- Uh, Gary, the Sea Dragon concept used *pressure fed* engines, which
- don't *have* pumps. Instead, it used big, dumb, strong fuel tanks,
- pressurized with compressed gas. This limits you to lower chamber
- pressures than in pump fed engines (otherwise the tanks are too
- heavy), but can be much simpler.
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- Moreover, your comment is nonsense even without this fact. Lower
- chamber pressure lowers thrust mainly because it lowers the mass flow
- rate through the engine (the coefficient of thrust also decreases a
- bit, but not enormously). Viewed another way, the mass flow required
- to get a given amount of thrust is proportional to one over the Isp.
- Isp does increase somewhat with increasing chamber pressure, but
- rather slowly. The load on a pump increases linearly with the
- pressure it is required to supply, however.
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- Paul F. Dietz
- dietz@cs.rochester.edu
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