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- From: ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright)
- Subject: Re: Terminal Velocity of DCX? (was Re: Shuttle ...)
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- Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 19:04:59 GMT
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- In <1992Dec13.180422.9731@ke4zv.uucp> gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman) writes:
-
- >That's because you rarely see the prototype engines that blow up in
- >testing and are discarded for a different design. Nor do you see the
- >engines that worked, but didn't meet the required performance goals.
- >A large rocket engine that has to work from sea level to vacuum can't
- >be completely debugged on a static stand.
-
- Nothing can be completely debugged on the test stand. A turbojet
- may not have to work from sea level to vaccuum, but it does have
- to work from sea level to 35,000 feet. You need to build a test
- chamber in either case.
-
-
-
- >What flight articles were they used on? How many went into orbit and
- >what was their throttle characteristic? You can't answer because none
- >have ever flown.
-
- You deleted your original statement, which said that aerospike
- engines had not been tested *even in static tests.* Are you
- deliberately quoting me out of context, or do I need to explain
- the difference between a static test and a design article?
-
-
-
- >>Oh. I thought you were talking about the reentry. No, the controlled
- >>powered landing was demonstrated, again in the 1960's, by a vehicle
- >>called the LEM. Which had the additional requirement of landing solely
- >>in unprepared fields.
-
- >In 1/6th G in vacuum, single engine, with a vehicle that massed less than
- >1/10th of DC. A totally different environment, totally different control
- >problem, and totally different scale.
-
- Yes, I'm prepared to assume that engineers can remember to multiple by
- 6 or 10. Totally different environment? But, Gary, you just got through
- telling me that the environment of space is much more hostile than the
- Earth's atmosphere. If that's the case, landing on the Earth should be
- a cinch compared to landing on the Moon, should it?
-
- And how did we ever manage to design a vehicle that could operate in
- that "totally different environment" to begin with? With all the
- problems you say rockets have. Do you believe the Moon landings were
- filmed at a studio on Long Island?
-
- Somehow, the Apollo engineers managed to get the job done, even
- though the technology, in those days really *was* "radically new."
-
- Isn't it amazine what you can do when you're "success oriented?"
-
-