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- Subject: Aurora
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- Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 15:00:50 GMT
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- Dean Adams writes (Fri, 11 Dec 92 13:49:51 GMT):
-
- >>The first sightings (1990-1991) were of a "primarily delta-shaped"
- >>aircraft. (J. Pharabod)
-
- >Not really... The first reported Aurora design ideas were of a smaller
- >"almond" shaped sort of vehicle, also called the "pulser". The more
- >recent reports seem to be of something much larger. (D. Adams)
-
- I was speaking only of the sightings reported in the August 24, 1992,
- AW&ST issue. I was not speaking of previous articles, such as:
-
- "Possible 'Black' Aircraft Seen Flying In Formation With F-117s, KC-135s"
- AW&ST, March 9, 1992 (p. 66)
-
- "New Evidence Bolsters Reports of Secret, High-Speed Aircraft", AW&ST,
- May 11, 1992 (p. 62)
-
- >>Only in the two last sightings (1992) were reported a "narrow
- >>fuselage" and/or a "forward wing or canard". Maybe these two last
- >>sightings can be discarded
-
- >WHAT?? The previous reports were based on "design concepts",
- >these are much more direct reports. There is no logical reason
- >for simply "discarding" such information.
-
- I still think that the sightings reported in this August 24 issue
- are not better than UFO sightings:
-
- 1. 1990 sightings: occurred during night or late evening (visibility?),
- number of witnesses not reported, apparently no inquiry about the
- witnesses (tired? drunk? ill?)
- 2. April 1991 sighting: daytime, but the craft was said "dwarfing an
- F-16 chasing it". This casts a doubt on this sighting: is it usual
- that US military planes chase US secret aircrafts? (well, maybe it
- was an exercise). Same questions about the witnesses.
- 3. May 10, 1992: daytime over Atlanta suburbs, but only one witness in
- a populated area. Why other people did not see or report anything?
- 4. July 12, 1992: during night, only one witness (a motorist), no
- inquiry reported about this witness.
- 5. No photos, no video films.
-
- >>3). In its December 1991 issue, Popular Mechanics (article "America's
- >>New Secret Aircraft") reports, near Edwards AFB, a big triangular object
- >>which, like the Belgian object, can hover silently horizontally and
- >>vertically...
-
- >99% of that article consisted of repeating the previous AW&ST report.
- >Then they threw in that one extra report. It did not sound like it
- >was very highly substantiated...
-
- It was no more substantiated than the above criticized sightings.
- However, since the object was hovering or flying at very low speed,
- the sightings lasted for more than a few seconds, which was probably
- not the case for the AW&ST sightings:
- "[...] The craft moved so slowly one observer said he could jog along
- with it.[...] Observers who followed the craft long enough detailed
- unlikely maneuvers in which the vehicle stopped, rotated in place and
- hovered vertically, presenting a thin trailing edge to the ground."
-
- >>c) Popular Mechanics and AW&ST are no more serious than UFO reviews.
-
- >Strike Three. :-> Where is the logic there? I can't speak for P.M.,
- >but have you ever read AW&ST? It is VERY serious.
-
- Yes, I have read it. It's generally serious... except when it reports
- sightings. In this last case, it seems no more serious than UFO reviews
- (at least I think so, since I don't read UFO reviews).
-
- J. Pharabod
-