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- Path: sparky!uunet!coplex!chuck
- From: chuck@coplex.com (Chuck Sites)
- Subject: Postmortem analysis of Tom's cells
- Organization: Copper Electronics, Inc.
- Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 06:06:29 GMT
- Message-ID: <1992Dec19.060629.15852@coplex.com>
- Summary: A brief on postmortem analysis of Tom Droege's CF cathodes.
- Keywords: electron-microscopy, Cold Fusion, Tom Droege
- Lines: 284
-
- Hi folks,
-
- As Tom has noted in the past, I have been doing a postmortem of some of
- his cathodes with an SEM looking for anything interesting that might appear.
- So far I've looked at two cells and one unused control cell. This SEM is
- outfitted with and EDAX X-ray backscatter system for element analysis, which
- we were using to look for any measurable transmutaions of Pd from cold
- fusion. We were hoping to find a smoking gun to the age old question of
- "where is the ash." We didn't find any smoking gun, but there is enough
- good material in the form of surface effects, complex chemistry, and Pd
- crystal formations that I think everyone in this group would say it's worth
- while. Over the next weeks, I will be posting some uuencoded GIFs of what
- was seen. From the point of view of a electronmicroscopist, a picture is
- worth a million words (and getting better).
-
- The question about fusion ash in Pd, can take two tracts. One is the
- direct measurements of neutrons, charge particles, x-rays, etc. The other
- is to look postmortem at the casing in which fusion took place. This is
- based on the simple assumption that:
-
- Transmutations/gm*Pd = Fusions/gm*Pd/s * Cross_section_Pd * s
-
- While this would seem simple to calculate, the reality it is far more
- complicated. For example simple geometries present a problem (for localized
- fusion like 'fracto-fusion'). Also It ignores the fact that there are several
- isotopes of Pd and with each the cross section and reaction products change.
- Additionally since the final number of transmuations are dependent on upon the
- previous isotope volumes, which in turn was dependent upon the earlier
- transmuations, and the fusion rates of the time, it's difficult even to
- estimate. This is an interesting problem that could be solved with a computer
- program if the cross section data and reaction products is available. I haven't
- persuaded this mainly because of the lack of cross section information and
- reaction product tables. If someone has such a table, please let me know
- because such estimates could be important to this method of CF analysis.
-
- Of the transmuations from a DD fusion in Pd, the only obvious one that
- I know of is d(d,t)p -> Pd(p, gamma)Ag. So it is that interaction I was
- looking for first. With all expectations of finding a distinct signature
- of silver in the Pd, the whole idea of finding trace amounts of silver in
- Pd by backscatter X-ray was nearly shot down when we found that Pd and
- Ag are so close in the main peaks, that the Pd peak easily overwhelms any
- Ag peak that could be used to indicate postmortem fusion ash. These spectral
- lines are so close in the X-ray K-bands and L-bands, trace amounts of one or
- the other can not be distiguised. Except one spectral peak. This is known
- as the escape peak. In Tom's first cell (what I called "fractured
- electrode"), I did see a very-very small peak at this location that did
- not appear in the control. But because this is easily a localized
- contamination or perhaps fracto-fusion (in this case I was looking at
- the fracture edge of one of Tom's electrodes), the parts per million
- range seems very probable, all I can ask is are we looking at a Jones level,
- slightly above, or background? Honestly folks, I just can't say either way
- with quantitative certainty. What I can say is we did observe a blip where
- the Ag escape should be in the cell I labeled "Fractured electrode".
-
- COMING CLEAN:
-
- Tom's was asked whether there are micro-fractures in his cells.
- I did not see any except in his first cell where there are several
- nodual like fractal separations from the main alpha-beta phase induced
- split. Let me change that. In all of the active cathodes we looked
- at, all showed some fracturing around the connection lead wire and
- cathode. The first cell is so profoundly fractured, (it was split
- open like a burst hot dog) that fracto-fusion residual was my first
- thought and was one of the reasons I asked Tom to look at his cells.
- The other was that he offered the net access to his cells for further
- analysis. It sounded interesting so in May, we did our first runs.
- Anyway back to the question of micro-fractures. There are several
- scratches left over from grinding, but I was surprised to find that
- there is very-very little residual material left over from this process.
- We didn't see anything significant.
-
- Tom runs his cells with very clean pure Pd cathodes from what we see.
- While the scratches might lead to some minor localized effects, their depth
- is is minor compared to the bulk, and the frequency is small compared to
- surface area. In the last cell we looked at, the surface was so smooth, the
- only micro fracturing we saw, was around the connection between cathode
- lead and the cathode. Again, this looks like stress induced fracturing
- due to a difference in expansion rates. On this cell there is a visible
- dark spot near the center of a flat sheet Pd cathode. (This was Tom's
- Takahashi style experiment). The dark spot looks like heat stress, and
- we did observe some small faceted crystals of what looks like electrolyte
- material in the area. The hot spot occurs where the end of the cathode
- lead wire (I assume this was Pt) ends in the cell. The gap between these
- two metals may be a collecting point for D gas, and a potential hot spot
- for cold fusion, so the next time I get beam time, I'll look at this area
- closer. It's on my list of places to look.
-
- SURFACE FUN:
-
- The active cathodes I've looked at have some wild chemistry going on.
- In the first cell, Tom was using D2SO4 for an electrolyte, and as
- one would expect, sulfur was a predominate peak in our analysis.
- I think John Logajan's comments about D2O2 formation as a source of
- heat when using sulfur based electrolytes is probably correct. If
- cathode surface chemistry is the key, then there should be by-products.
- D2O2 or even H2O2 would be tricky to observe except by fine changes
- in pH, and anomalies in the recombination of escaping gases. In our
- postmortums we did find several metals on the surface apparently
- transported by the electrolytes that include Pt, Cu, Zn, S. These
- were not minor concentrations, and the source of Cu, Zn was from a
- brass connector that made contact with the electrolyte. In the other
- active cathode (Takahashi style) we saw Pt, Cu, Fe, Zn. This cell had
- an inactive stainless steel part submerged in the solution. To me, it
- is some what amazing that stainless steel which is pretty inert and
- fairly resistive to chemical attacks, becomes apparent in our analysis
- even though its not suppose to be an active electrolysis participant.
- It was only in contact with the electrolyte, and yet we see deposits Fe
- on the Pd cathode. Tom mentioned to me that stainless should have Ni in it.
- It I recall it could also have Vanadium too. If it does, these weren't
- apparent in our analysis. It may be that that the electrolytic etching of
- the electrodes is somewhat selective, since neither of these metals migrated
- to the Pd. Obviously metal transport in an electrolyte is not new, (can you say
- electroplating?) but to find something as inert as a Pt anode and metals
- from an inactive stainless steel component this active in the electrolyte
- deposits, was a surprise to me. Regardless, it suggest that all thermocouples
- that are used in these types of experiments should be protected by some type
- of sheath. I think glass would be good. Ahh, but what about Si?. We did see
- this too, but only when glass was in direct contact with the Pd. Si does
- not appear to migrate naturally under electrolysis from what we see.
-
- EQUIPMENT:
-
- We used an ISI600 SEM (scanning electron microscope) outfitted with
- an EDAX backscatter X-ray spectrometer for materials analysis. The EDAX
- uses x-rays created by the SEM's electron beam on the surface area being
- examined to determine the areas composition. Its detection capabilities
- are in the parts per million but it is limited. It cannot detect elements
- below boron, and due to the potential of damaging the SiLi detector from
- D and Li residual in the cathode cells, we ran the system with the light
- element window closed. This limited us to elements above Oxygen. Also the
- system cannot resolve isotopes of a specific elements so we cannot say there
- is or isn't isotope shifts indicating a nuclear ash. This leaves us with
- only the ability to observe direct transmutation (like Pd->Ag if fusion of
- rates occurs) and surface composition indicating the cell's chemistry for
- heavier elements.
-
- The ISI600 is not a High-res SEM, but it is mature. The same is true of
- the EDAX system. If I had to fault EDAX's maturity it would be that their
- auto peak analysis has a tendency to pick K lines over other M lines for
- identification of elements. This lead to a problem where we thought we
- found a strong Yttrium K-alpha line, which was actually a strong Pt-M
- line. Because Y is pretty rare, this sent several of us scrambling thinking
- we had the smoking gun. Pd and other transition metals can be fissioned
- into various light elements, and Y is one candidate from Pd+d. Alas, it
- wasn't true. It was a software design presumption that the K lines would
- be stronger than the L and M's. This happened again where the in the
- Takahashi style experiment, Tm was chosen over Si. As Tom has said, we
- all learn from mistakes and those of others. This was mine.
-
- PRELIMINARY DATA:
-
- Here is the data. The first column is unprocessed data. The ZAFS
- is a correction to the spectrum based on the atomic weight and atomic
- number (Z & A) of the elements and is the better value. CPS is the
- Counts per Second for the channel numbers expected for that peak.
- The %Wt is the percent weight for the sample under beam.
-
- LIVE TIME: 159.842 sec
- 11-JUN-92 21:21:37 11-JUN-92 21:21:50
- Sample: Fractured Electrode Sample: Fractured Electrode
- Inside Edge. Photo 47. Inside Edge. Photo 47. (After ZAFS)
- Element CPS %Wt Element CPS %Wt
- -------- ------- -------- -------- ------- --------
- Pt M 19.156 5.808 Pt M 19.1564 7.67
- S K 18.280 1.616 S K 18.2604 3.33
- Pd L 77.155 16.974 Pd L 77.1553 24.79
- Ag L 5.362 1.332 Ag L 5.3615 1.63
- Cu K 271.561 62.857 Cu K 271.5612 53.40
- Zn K 12.938 3.474 Zn K 12.9377 2.94
- Pt L 8.077 5.939 Pt L 8.0767 6.24
-
- Note: This samples was done at an area where the metal edge of
- the fracture was peeking through electrolyte build up.
- The surface was extremely etched, looking like a sponge.
- The Ag could be an artifact of Pd L.
-
- LIVE TIME: 176.573 sec.
- 11-JUN-92 20:11:02 11-JUN-92 20:11:50
- Sample: Fractured Electrode Sample: Fractured Electrode
- Cleaned area. Photo 32. Cleaned area. Photo 32. (After ZAFS)
- Element CPS %Wt Element CPS %Wt
- -------- ------- -------- -------- ------- --------
- Pd L 224.491 97.740 Pd L 224.4907 97.64
- Pt L 1.303 1.696 Pt M 1.3026 1.83
- Y K 0.176 0.564 * Y K 0.1756 0.53 *
-
- * We used this one to prove to ourselves that Y peak we had
- found in an earlier runs was probably an artifact of the
- Pt M spectra. The values suggest what to expect from the
- possibility of Pd-L to Ag-K spectral artifact. The area
- was cleaned by scraping a deep gouge out of the surface
- with a razor.
-
- LIVE TIME: 178.728 sec.
- 11-JUN-92 20:39:03 11-JUN-92 20:39:15
- Sample: Fractured Electrode Sample: Fractured Electrode
- Surface (Cross) Photo 33. Surface (Cross) Photo 33. (After ZAFS)
- Element CPS %Wt Element CPS %Wt
- -------- ------- -------- -------- ------- --------
- Pt M 8.079 4.996 Pt M 8.0793 4.83
- S K 4.792 0.864 S K 4.7920 1.27
- Pd L 172.222 86.375 Pd L 172.2224 86.61
- Cu K 7.242 3.419 Cu K 7.2424 3.07
- Pt L 2.898 4.346 Pt L 2.8983 4.23
-
- Note: This was a spectular Pd crystal formation we found on the
- surface. We speculate it formed during electrolysis due to
- it's relative purity and lack of electrolyte deposits.
-
- LIVE TIME: 174.524 sec.
- 25-OCT-92 13:36:59 25-OCT-92 13:37:43
- Sample: Pd Takahashi Style Sample: Pd Takahashi Style
- Blackened Surface (No Photo) Blackened Surface (After ZAFS)
- Element CPS %Wt Element CPS %Wt
- -------- ------- -------- -------- ------- --------
- Na K 1.954 0.587 Na K 1.9539 1.73
- Pd L 130.280 45.258 Pd L 130.2798 48.76
- Ag L 3.586 1.259 Ag L 3.5857 1.32
- Fe K 17.350 6.340 Fe K 17.3500 5.03
- Cu K 6.716 4.924 Cu K 6.7154 3.77
- Zn K 8.423 8.109 Zn K 8.4228 6.19
- Pt L 7.766 33.489 Pt L 7.7665 33.58
-
- Note: This was from the blacked surface of Tom's Takahashi style
- experiment. The electrolyte was LiDO and thus we can't
- resolve the true surface chemistry. Na K may be an artifact.
-
- LIVE TIME: 177.078 sec.
- 25-OCT-92 13:55:48 25-OCT-92 13:56:35
- Sample: Pd Takahashi Style Sample: Pd Takahashi Style
- Clean edges (No Photo) Clean Edges (After ZAFS)
- Element CPS %Wt Element CPS %Wt
- -------- ------- -------- -------- ------- --------
- Tm M 31.268 5.703 *(1) Tm M 31.2687 8.91 *(1)
- Pd L 204.870 75.258 Pd L 204.8701 78.68
- Fe K 0.988 0.413 Fe K 0.9883 0.34
- Cu K 3.089 2.589 Cu K 3.0890 2.05
- Zn K 1.502 1.635 Zn K 1.5002 1.29
- Pt L 0.384 1.892 Pt L 0.3838 1.94
- Pb L 0.361 6.398 Pb L 0.3614 6.79
-
- * Tm M is misidentified. It should be Si K. The %Wt is thus wrong.
- Note: This was where a glass holder pinched onto the surface. This
- left a clean edge about 2 mm on two sides. The Pb was
- probably from the glass.
-
- CONCLUSIONS:
-
- When we first started this work, it was done to briefly get a
- run down of the constituents of the surface specifically looking
- for transmutation without regard to quantitative analysis. This
- hap-hazard approach was good in that it allowed us to get a handle
- on what to expect, but it also caused some problems for us when we
- did comparative analysis and couldn't use our initial quantitative
- work. We plan to do one more run where all three samples will be
- looked at simulataniously and a good comparative analysis can be
- made and allow us to verify Ag contents.
-
- Still, in all of our analysis we did find significant surface
- deposits of Pt, up to 33% in one case, and this leads me to wonder if
- these deposits are catalyizing the recombination of H + OH -> H2O. In a
- closed cell, this would be of no consequence, but in an open cell where
- recombination is considered 0, this could give the appearance of excess
- heat. The heat of a cell is given as P = V I = [(V - k*1.48)*I] + k[1.48*I]
- where k represents the recombination factor (from 0 to 1). If in-solution
- remcombination is taking place at the cathode, this should create a
- solution higher in hydrogen, which might be seen as a change in pH to
- acid or neutral in the case of alkali solution. This pH change may even
- be seen in closed cells, as un-recombined oxygen fills the head space of
- the recombiner leaving a higher hydrogen concentration in the electrolyte.
- This may be something to look for.
-
- Finally, while our analysis could not prove the presents of Ag as
- a fusion by-product, and metal transport problems may religate further
- analysis moot if the anode is Ag bearing (at least for surface analysis).
- Still this method does suggest a new method for CF exploration. If an alloy
- can be made that indicates the distinct effects of irradiation by a distinct
- low energy induced transmutation, this type of postmortem analysis could be
- a valuable tool.
-
- Happy Holidays,
- Chuck Sites
- chuck@coplex.com
-
-